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Game: Generals And Statesmen A game for those who wish to have the illusion of power…

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE (sesame_street_hustler @ Sep 12 2007, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Transton response: deploy national guard units into the seized territory and issue demands to renegade forces to seize efforts at attempts to segregate and declare independence apartheid. if demands not met within 3 days, renegade forces do not withdrawal, and imposing treaty refused to be signed indicating surrender., then Transton Military forces are authorized to seek and destroy all members declaring to be renegades.


Under pressure; the rebel forces disintegrate. Most of the former rebel army has turned into guerrilla units and have started to mingle with the civilian population.

Event: Your security advisor suggests that you take no more action lest you give the civilian population a reason to fight you and your intelligence advisor says that it would be best to wipe out what’s left of the rebel army before they gain a stronghold somewhere.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 08:57 AM

I start making examples by having trouble-making people executed on the streets, and broadcasting messages in order to stop others from rioting ("This could happen to you as well."). Also, I take my spies' families as hostages (of those who have one), and start threatening them to get the hell back home. I make a mental note to execute them or have them assassinated as soon as they arrive, too.

<Question, by the way: How is it possible that I have like 5% army size, whereas the hippies got 15%, even though I'd mentioned that this is a militarist state full of oppressed, xenophobic fucktards who hate everyone else's guts? Also, I'd have thought that decades of iron-handed dictatorship would've made them somewhat more timid towards their leadership.>
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 11:36 AM

QUOTE (Spoon Poetic @ Sep 12 2007, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Size of country is determined by dice roll, not by player.


thats a dumb rule, makes no sense. im out.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 03:11 PM

Would you like some cheese to go with your whine?

I'm making a country and hopping on the bandwagon.

Name: The United People's Republic of Garablan
Ethnicity: Mixed (Called Garablans)
Currency: Gold Doubloons (Freshly minted with designs of the founding fathers and mothers on them, not old pirate gold. tongue.gif )

Government Type: 2
Progressive/Conservative: 3
Open/Closed: 3
Economic Control: 7
Army: 10
Propensity for War: 3
Interventionism: 3

My first action of the game as Chumble Slade is to build aquaducts at New Gaiman and spearmen over in Mount Stuff. Wait, this isn't civilization.

My real first actions are to stay the hell out of the conflict and tension the other countries are in, and let the soverign nations involved in the present civil wars sort themselves out, with possible acknowledgement of the governments at the end of the turmoil, depending on their stability. Diplomats shall be dispatched to all countries, asking them to stop flipping out on one another and reminding them that we want nothing to do with them killing one another, and to leave us and our humanitarian aid workers alone while we tend to their civilians. All of this diplomatically, of course.

<I also think that army size should not be a die roll only, and bonuses/penalties due to government choices should weigh heavily in on it. I don't understand how there's a sliding scale from draft to paid army, since you either have conscription or you don't, unless you mean what percentage of the army is allowed to be drafted, so a 9 score would only draft a few people and a score of 1 wouldn't care if every male from an entire state was forced to go to war.>

Edit: <Fixed OOC tags. Sorry.>

This post has been edited by Slade: 12 September 2007 - 08:07 PM

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 03:52 PM

I've been itching to indulge in one of these for ages, lets have a roll...

Country Name: The Kingdom of Peuthar Teon
Ethnicity: Upper Class English (the really cartoony sort with monocles and stuff. Imagine the English Flanders in that episode of the Simpsons with the Flanders barbeque and you've got it.)
Currency: Old English Pounds (equivilant to... erm... the old English currency)
And I am the Queen. Which in this country is the broad label for any monarch. So I'm the Queen.

Authoritarian: 6 (We mostly grind down on stupid people)
Rightwing: 3 (Gosh doodly)
Closed Society: 8 (No handlebar moustache, no entry)
Controlled Economy: 6 (Once again, nothing stupid gets through)
Paid Army: 6 (Mostly paid, but with suicidal death squads made up of men who passed the afternoon scones the wrong way around the table. Known as the Sconners to the infantry.)
War Hawks: 3 (We're quite amiable as long as you raise your pinky to sip your tea)
Interventionism: 4 (see above)

Also, 10-60 square kilometers is about the size of a large town. Wouldn't it make more sense to use a D10 times by, say, a thousand? Just a thought.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 07:45 PM

David-kyo

Event: Your actions on the civilian population has severe repercussions as a reactionary militia is formed by the far right against your rule. The spies have decided to turn themselves in and after your troops grill them for information (discovering the location of several strategic artillery units which would have annihilated your troops if you had invaded Porchesia) they execute them.

Slade

Nation: The United People's Republic of Garablan
Ethnicity: Garablans
Currency: Gold Doubloons

Size: 30 square kilometres

Population: 30,000

Army size: 30%

Event: Your actions have a mixed response. The foreign ministry in both nations have told you to but out of their conflict while at the same time both have pleaded for military assistance.

Chyld

Nation: The Kingdom of Peuthar Teon
Ethnicity: English
Currency: Pounds

Size: 50 square kilometres

Population: 50,000

Army size: 10%

Event: A massive demonstration has taken over the streets. Many ethnic Porchesians is pleading the government to intervene in the Porchesia-Horothesia conflict. Some have even started hunger strikes. Your security advisor says that it would be best to send troops in to clean up the street.

QUOTE (David-kyo @ Sep 12 2007, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<Question, by the way: How is it possible that I have like 5% army size, whereas the hippies got 15%, even though I'd mentioned that this is a militarist state full of oppressed, xenophobic fucktards who hate everyone else's guts? Also, I'd have thought that decades of iron-handed dictatorship would've made them somewhat more timid towards their leadership.>


<Don’t forget that you have a paid army and a very picky society when it comes to the defence of the nation>

QUOTE (sesame_street_hustler @ Sep 12 2007, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats a dumb rule, makes no sense. im out.


<Anyone who invades Transton right now will get a share of its territory, keep in mind that just because the country is leaderless, its doesn’t mean that there will be no resistance>

QUOTE (Slade @ Sep 12 2007, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also think that army size should not be a die roll only, and bonuses/penalties due to government choices should weigh heavily in on it. I don't understand how there's a sliding scale from draft to paid army, since you either have conscription or you don't, unless you mean what percentage of the army is allowed to be drafted, so a 9 score would only draft a few people and a score of 1 wouldn't care if every male from an entire state was forced to go to war.


<Events are not just determined by dice roll, they are very much determined by your country‘s policy; whether or not the event is good or bad is determined by dice roll. The Paid Army metre determines how much (if at all) the common soldiers get paid apposed to how long a person stays in the army (conscription)>

QUOTE (Chyld @ Sep 12 2007, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, 10-60 square kilometers is about the size of a large town. Wouldn't it make more sense to use a D10 times by, say, a thousand? Just a thought.


<You get more land when you take over other peoples countries>

<Note to all players: The Closed Society metre determines how strict the laws are in your country, not how friendly the people in your country are to outsiders>
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 08:45 PM

Okay, here I go:

Name: The Commonwealth of Lower Ambleshire
Ethnicity: No fat chicks
Currency: the gram

Authoritarian: 5
Rightwing: 3
Closed Society: 8
Controlled Economy: 2
Paid Army: 2
War Hawks: 4
Interventionism: 10

Let the phun begin.

EDIT: Misspelled my country.

This post has been edited by Ninja Duck: 12 September 2007 - 08:47 PM

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 09:02 PM

Alright, let's give it a go:

Name: The Democractic Republic of the Fascist Son's of Western-Northland
Ethnicity: Corkasians
Currency: Porn

Authoritarian: 10
Rightwing: 10
Closed Society:10
Controlled Economy: 1
Paid Army: 10
War Hawks: 10
Interventionism: 10
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 10:23 PM

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Nation: The Commonwealth of Lower Ambleshire
Ethnicity: Chicks
Currency: Gram

Size: 20 square kilometres

Population: 60,000

Army size: 30%

Event: Your chief of staff has suggested that you side with Horothesia in the Porchesia-Horothesia conflict because then you will be able to gain lands and make it seem like you are fighting a ‘humanitarian war’.

Dr Lecter

Nation: The Democractic Republic of the Fascist Son's of Western-Northland
Ethnicity: Corkasians
Currency: Porn

Size: 40 square kilometres

Population: 160,000

Army size: 25%

Event: Your highest ranking field marshal has suggested that you invade both Porchesia and Horothesia to catch them both of guard and make a quick victory while they are both too busy fighting one another.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 11:11 PM

I'll take my chief of staff's advice. Rather than extend aid to Horothesia, I commence airstrikes over random parts of Porchesia. I appeal to the students of Porchesia by giving them televised addresses in which I speak vaguely about a revolution for the people. If I can, I try to recruit the best students in Porchesia for jobs in Ambleshire.
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Posted 12 September 2007 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE (Ninja Duck @ Sep 12 2007, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll take my chief of staff's advice. Rather than extend aid to Horothesia, I commence airstrikes over random parts of Porchesia. I appeal to the students of Porchesia by giving them televised addresses in which I speak vaguely about a revolution for the people. If I can, I try to recruit the best students in Porchesia for jobs in Ambleshire.


Your air force bombs what it thinks are enemy field hospitals but what turn out to be civilian hospitals. This has caused massive dissent in your country and has strengthened Porchesia’s position with its population. After the ‘accidental air strike’ the students of Porchesia have decided that they would rather not do anything to help you or your nation.
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Posted 13 September 2007 - 03:49 AM

If there are any known personalities in the right-wing forces, I use my branch of journalists to besmirch their good name. I also have the National Guard prepare for terrorist attacks, we'll be on the defensive, but any attack will be met with the fiercest retaliation. We don't take shit from anyone.

I attempt to sell the strategic intel to Horothesia, meanwhile I set up a spy network in Transton to estimate the power of their army, now that their leader has been overthrown, they should make an easier target. Until the tinderbox situation at home is resolved, I decide not to invade enemy territories, but I want to gather as much information as I can.

I use any extra money to increase the funding of healthcare, education, etc. in order to boost my popularity rating somewhat, as well as spewing my own propaganda anywhere I can in the meantime.
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Posted 13 September 2007 - 04:34 AM

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The national guard wipes out almost all the rebels with minimal civilian casualties. The propaganda and health care does little to change the minds of the people as many family members of the soldiers your forces have killed started rioting in the streets and calling for a national referendum on change of government. The spy carrying the intelligence to has decided to betray you and sell the intelligence for himself.
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Posted 13 September 2007 - 07:00 AM

I invite five of the leaders of the protests to afternoon tea, ostentatiously to hear their arguement, but more importantly, to see if they follow proper etiquette and manners (pinkies up, passing the scones the right way around the table, which knife to butter the scones with, etc), since this is how most diplomatic ventures are brokered in Peuthar Teon.

If they get it all right, I send out envoies to Porchesia offering military aid, and await their response.

If, on the more likely hand, they get it even slightly wrong, the leaders have the Croquet Mallet division of the police set on them, and the protesters are herded into the Palacial Croquet Lawns and gassed to death.

<I don't know what system you're using to randomise events, so that one's up to you. Odds are on the massacre, however.>

Whichever happens, the government announces the construction of a huge alabaster dome in the capital, Donlon, by the River Timms. No announcements are made for what purpose it'll serve, but hey, big dome, right?

EDIT: Since not much else is going on right now, I'll also send covert agents into nearby Transton territory, gauge the local feeling towards Peuthar Teon, and coax them towards some sort of uprising/defection to me.

This post has been edited by Chyld: 13 September 2007 - 02:08 PM

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 07:22 AM

This is ridiculous, everyone is so fucking liberal-minded in this communist hellhole? Ok then, let's carpet-nuke the whole country.

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