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If You Had To Kill a Dictator... Would You Do It?

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 01:42 AM

Now, before I get all kinds of flamed here, let me just lay out my situation here:

Imagine the leader of your country (it doesn't matter which, and it doesn't matter who) was really a power-hungry lunatic behind the public facade he/she shows. Now, imagine you're the only one who has even an inkling of this, or are the only one who doesn't care. If you knew he/she was going to declare war on our allies and seize dictatorial powers tomorrow, would you kill him/her today? Would you sacrifice your sanity, your reputation, even your life, to stop a monster from seizing control? Or would you sit back, turn on the boob tube, and let the Apocalyse unfold?

Let me narrow it down: Would you have killed Adolf Hitler before he seized power in 1933? Let's not forget: no one would believe you if you said you knew, and your entire way of life would be at stake.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 01:52 AM

It's a much better idea to wait until the leader makes the first horrendous move, because then you're not looking like some nut-job who wants to kill someone anymore, you're trying to stop a crazy dictator. So if I knew it was going to happen tomorrow, I'd let it start and foil it mid-plan so that people realized what was going on.

As far as Hitler was concerned, I'd have attempted to convince his professors to be less critical at art school. Though really, Germany was a bomb waiting to go off due to the failure of the Weimar republic and Germany's ridiculous amount of "war debt" it was forced to agree to pay off at the end of WWI, which of course annihilated the economy and increased inflation by a billion or so percent. Hitler just found how to set the fuse and plant the explosion where it would be useful for him.

Anyway, if you're going to be asking about any sort of governmental head assassination, don't say specificially "President."
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Posted 14 July 2007 - 02:17 AM

QUOTE (Slade @ Jul 14 2007, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, if you're going to be asking about any sort of governmental head assassination, don't say specificially "President."


Oops, sorry about that. unsure.gif

But, still, thank you for posting: you've made some very good points! smile.gif
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:07 AM

QUOTE (Bond @ Jul 14 2007, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, before I get all kinds of flamed here, let me just lay out my situation here:

Imagine the leader of your country (it doesn't matter which, and it doesn't matter who) was really a power-hungry lunatic behind the public facade he/she shows. Now, imagine you're the only one who has even an inkling of this, or are the only one who doesn't care. If you knew he/she was going to declare war on our allies and seize dictatorial powers tomorrow, would you kill him/her today? Would you sacrifice your sanity, your reputation, even your life, to stop a monster from seizing control? Or would you sit back, turn on the boob tube, and let the Apocalyse unfold?


I would kill him in a needless painful and torturous manner, then take his place and become the facist dictator I was truly born to be.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:11 AM

Wouldn't you be arrested, though? Remember, this is real life, not Futurama. mellow.gif
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:52 AM

This is me, not a cartoon character.


I could do it.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 02:04 AM

How would you do it, though? JWB-style: barge through, shoot, and you're done? Or would you do an Oswald: go upstairs with a rifle during a motorcade and do the deed? Or would you prefer a different method? unsure.gif

EDIT: Not to be unsettling, but you've been rather vague so far. blushing.gif

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 02:36 AM

befriend, beguile, betray, behead, become.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 02:39 AM

So you'd be Palpatine, then? blink.gif
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Posted 28 July 2007 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Jul 19 2007, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
befriend, beguile, betray, behead, become.


Beautiful. Barend has just described the steps over a hundred dictators used throughout history to gain power.
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Posted 28 July 2007 - 02:50 PM

My question was, if you had to kill a soon-to-be dictator, and no one else knew the person was a dictator, and you'd be risking your entire reputation, life, and sanity to be doing it, would you do it? mellow.gif
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Posted 28 July 2007 - 02:53 PM

I would kill him even if he wasn’t going to be a dictator. We have to keep leaders on their toes, you see. But a more effective way would be to kill the persons parents before they are born, less security that way.

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 02:56 PM

Well, it'd be like uncovering a conspiracy, and you're the only person who knows about it. Basically, it's as if Abraham Lincoln was actually an evil son-of-a-b*tch, and you're John Wilkes Booth. ohmy.gif
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Posted 28 July 2007 - 09:03 PM

Yeah. I mean, if I had a suspicion, I'd probably do it. But knowing me, it wouldn't be possible. See, I'm not the type of guy who would go for a simple gunshot. I'd at least shoot him at close range, and if possible, I'd probably stab him or something. That's my problem.
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Posted 28 July 2007 - 09:50 PM

So, you're saying overkill is a problem for you? blink.gif

Overkill didn't really fit into my hypothetical situation; it was either yes or no, and a possible how. With all the shooting and stabbing and such, someone might actually mistake you for a real maniac. Scary stuff... ohmy.gif
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