[blueoceans]

i feel that there is too much reliance of cgi for special effects in films.

before cgi,there was matte paintings, models, puppets, animation, etc.

now its like hollywood either got lazy and doesnt want to do all the other work that was involved with the aforementioned alternatives, or would much rather rake in more profits since cgi is usually regarded as being the least expensive option for effects.

so what...

it can work both ways you know. with the advanced technology of computers, they can use computers to create and design puppets that look more realistic, and build those puppets, with advanced animatronics/robotics, etc.

they can use computers to design color schematics that would produce a more convincing matte painting,..not a computer generated matte painting per se, but rather, simply a blue print of where to apply what colors of paint for any given hand artist.

they can also use computers to design models, and show how each individual piece should be designed and glued together, for optimal cost efficiency, realism, and effect.

almost every damn childrens movie these days is cgi rendered. where are all the classic beloved animated tales? i think american artists became lazy. pretty much any animated story is just rough sketched by american artists on storyboards, then shipped off to some animation studio in japan or korea for those artists to do all the painstaken, and time consistent artwork.

theres nothing wrong with still releasing animated features., in fact, movie for movie, i would rate japanese anime much higher than any crappy american childrens cgi film ive seen. dreamworks and disney/pixar are notorious for this big ball of popular cgi horseshit.

shrek, sharktale, monsters inc, cars, ratatouille, ...all of those cgi films are pretty much the same story recycled and rehashed over and over. they just change out some characters, change out a few lines, change of scenery, and viola,..new story to market. they all have the same gay campy humor,..always like one character that keeps saying cheesy one liners that are so funny kids shit their pants over and over.

and they come out soo often. every wonder why the sacred disney vault is like the only american source of animated films that come out to surface in recent times? its cause american artists have become lazy. no one wants to sit down at a desk for hours upon hours having to draw by hand a new tale. they rather use some damn autocad point and click program on a computer to create these new childrens tales, and complete the whole project in a fraction of the time., and set sail for the bahamas, instead of still being tied down to some longwinded handdrawn animation project.

george lucas is no different, he is old, rich and tired, and doesnt wants to fuck with the greasy puppets or crappy models anymore. so he hires nerdy fat computer geeks like rob coleman, who sits in a chair and farts at a desk all day while munching down on cheetos while lucas tells him how he wants every star wars movie to look.

[Bond]

These days, CGI looks more lifelike than the lumps of green putty Ray Harryhausen pulls out of his armit every morning.

[blueoceans]

These days, CGI looks more lifelike than the lumps of green putty Ray Harryhausen pulls out of his armit every morning.

say what you will, but Clash of the Titans is still a kick ass flick, and it needs no cgi

[Bond]

Are you kidding me?! Clash of the Titans?!

I'm sorry, but that's such a poor example of pre-CGI splendour...

[Sailor Abbey]

I was just talking with the spousal unit the other day. We both agree that we'd rather see the old puppet creatures with their limited movements and their fakeness, than see all the ridiculous half-assed cgi that’s out there now days.

CGI in horror movies is probably the worst. There’s nothing less terrifying then being reminded some dorks created a poor pixilated villain.

I think they did a really nice job with Gollum in LOTR. I watch Jurassic Park now and again, and the CGI in that movie is STILL really good, compared to what they do today. But they used puppets for the dinosaurs at times, and they blended the cgi really well, so they had a nice real look to them.

[blueoceans]

Are you kidding me?! Clash of the Titans?!

I'm sorry, but that's such a poor example of pre-CGI splendour...

youre complaining now...but back in 1981 you were thinking the effects were cool as hell.

[Bond]

Compared to Empire?! Shyeah, more like lame as hell...

[blueoceans]

Compared to Empire?! Shyeah, more like lame as hell...

oh, i was never comparing COT to ESB. everyone knows ESB had a much huger budget...in fact, ESB budget was so huge,..Irvin Kirschner actually spent more money than what was alloted for ESB

Lucas forgave him very soon, once he saw that the profits from ESB made back tons more than what was spent.

[Bond]

Well, Bubo is an obvious ripoff of R2-D2...

[blueoceans]

Well, Bubo is an obvious ripoff of R2-D2...

umm...no he isnt. just because he's a non talking robotic owl doesnt make him anything close to looking like a 2 ton roving trash can that whistles, beeps, and coos.

[Bond]

Look... I just don't know what to say here, okay?

[Lord Aquaman]

Most CGI is fake looking. Transformers managed to look pretty realistic though.

[Slade]

I think there is too much use of CGI. I've often found that my suspense of disbelief is much easier if it looks like the characters are actually interacting with someone/something, and not a computer image. There's just too much of a glaring contrast between computer graphics and live-action film when they're used in tandem.

I'd like to see a return to good makeup artists and puppets instead of computers.

Bond: If you don't know what to say, just don't say anything.

[Bond]

All right, then, Slade.

[Dorothy]

The problem with too much CGI is that no matter how good it looks now, in a year or two (or less {or more [if we're lucky]}) it's just gonna look crappy. And that's IF it started out looking halfway decent.