[Sailor Abbey]

It took Palpatine a total of 5 minutes to hook Darth Vader up with a shiny new Darth Vader suit. Is it like a special burn victim suit? Do all burn victims in the empire/republic wear such fancy apparatuses? If so, why would people be so intimidated by it?

Didnt Anakin find it a smidge suspicious that his master just happened to have one laying around... in Sith Lord Black, no less?

[Despondent]

Truth is, Palps had a complete, suited, human-android being, ready to begin with. A dead Annie's head could have easily been attached, so the Emperor gets what he wants regardless. (sigh) But Lord Vader was still alive so Palps had to junk his showroom model for parts.

[MyPantsAreOnFire]

God forbid Lucas tries to write anything where he doesn't have to scramble to wrap everything up in the last 5 minutes. What, did he think we were too stupid to realize that the burned up a guy being turned into a cyborg isn't Darth Vader? Having the suit all set to go, cape and all, just made that scene even more retarded.

[Sailor Abbey]

I think I could have appreciated a gradual evolution of a suit - seeing it for the first time as maybe... gray... maybe without the big helmet (which serves no purpose other than to look super cool). I would have understood Darth wanting the suit to look not so gay as he began to return to the public spotlight.

"Do you think I could get this in black? And could you make it shiny? Shiny is in right now... right?"

[Despondent]

Cute. How about bobo blue or tattooine brown?

[Storm]

There really isn't anything special about the suit aside from the helmet.

[MyPantsAreOnFire]

What about the ginormous codpiece?

[TruJade]

well the ROTS suit is different
from the one in ROTJ

it has more of a quilt pattern,
while the other is more mechanical

[barend]

There really isn't anything special about the suit aside from the helmet.

what about the buttons on the chest?

[Despondent]

"what about the buttons on the chest?"

I remember arguing about that in 1978 when the action figures were just coming out and I was really Just a tad too old to be playing with them. We had no idea WHAT they did (and it was better that way). Good question, MB.


I also liked the helmet better before it was all symetrical and "perfect" looking.

[mireaux7]

It took Palpatine a total of 5 minutes to hook Darth Vader up with a shiny new Darth Vader suit.
Didnt Anakin find it a smidge suspicious that his master just happened to have one laying around... in Sith Lord Black, no less?

The missing segment, (what is not truly revealed in ROTS), is the actual timeframe involved. As we watch the film, we are assuming the events being shown (Vader in the medical ward, and soon going into the black suit by Palpatine,.and Padme's twin pregnancy)..are in real time, and are simoultaneously occuring as the camera pans back and forth between these simoultaneous events as they occur.

I believe, and this is my personal interpretation of the story, that what is being shown towards the end of the film are brief, condensed narratives,.that arent based on real time, and are not occuring simoultaneously.

I believe Lucas just wanted to cut to the meat of each scene, and show each event as breifly as possible (Padme giving birth, Vader getting the suit, Yoda retreating to Dagobah,.and Luke and Leia being taken into care at their respective new homes)

Lucas, realizing he was on a definite time constraint when writing the script for ROTS, and having to bridge the storyline gaps between AOTC and ANH, ..it became a give in to resort to utilizing the condensed scenes.

So, regarding the scenes where Vader is undergoing medical attention by the droids,..the scene where Palpatine informs Vader of Padme's death,..and Palpatine showing Vader the construction of the Death Star...who is to really say,.how much time has passed from one given scene to the next?

This post has been edited by mireaux7: 12 June 2007 - 01:40 AM

[Despondent]

And who doesn't care a little less about it, every single day?

[Bond]

I thought the suiting-up scene was nice. The lowering of the mask bit ties in with ROTJ, and the score accompanying it is a really beautiful one. Overall, very well done.

[Toru-chan]

Lucas, realizing he was on a definite time constraint when writing the script for ROTS, and having to bridge the storyline gaps between AOTC and ANH, ..it became a give in to resort to utilizing the condensed scenes.

From the DVD Commentary he says he wanted to tie up all the threads between the OT and the PT. That's why it looked and felt like a checklist.

Time constraint? He had 20 years. The moral: Don't leave your homework until the last minute :-)

[Storm]

I think the movie could have ended in the scene where the mask is lowered onto Vader's head and he begins his mechanical breathing for the first time. We could have put the rest together.