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Posted 08 May 2007 - 03:29 PM

I think Kirsten Dunst is cute, and her boobs are big enough as is. But I do agree that she isn't Mary Jane Watson. She's too cute, she's like, all bouncy innocent. Of course, I still haven't seen the third one. But based off of the first two.

Is Kirsten a natural redhead, though?
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 04:04 PM

QUOTE (Spoon Poetic @ May 8 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Kirsten a natural redhead, though?


i dunno, but any head is good head, i suppose.
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 06:56 PM

It was a great movie. A lot of info crammed in it, but it worked alright in the end.

Peter Parker looked like someone from Good Charlotte when he was emo. lol!

That is all. Good movie, Kirsten was alright, the end. tongue.gif
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (optimus_prime @ May 8 2007, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
screw kirsten dunce,... she needs a new grill, a boob job, a face lift and something seriously done to her hair.


Dude, Kirsten Dunst is hot. You can go to hell. And she has great breasts - what are you smoking.
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (Sailor Abbey @ May 8 2007, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude, Kirsten Dunst is hot. You can go to hell. And she has great breasts - what are you smoking.


Seconded!

Hell, I know a straight girl who has a crush on Kirsten Dunst.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 12:23 PM

QUOTE (optimus_prime @ May 8 2007, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kirsten dunce...lmfao..why the hell did sam raimi cast her for the role of mary jane?

surely there are scores of redheads in this world that look far more beautiful than, kirtsen dunst does.

she looks like some kentucky backwoods country bumpkin, her teeth looks like she has been chewing on shaved glass and rusted nails, because they are jagged like a piranha's!

if i was spiderman i sure the hell wouldnt get my ass up off of my couch and turn the tv off, just to swing around town trying to find her and save her ass.

my spidey-sense would have already told me, that her ass isnt worth saving.

no,.this spiderman would be secretly tucked away inside a hidden brothel in soho getting his jollies off. (cues porno music: "bomp, chika-chika, womp, womp, womp)

screw kirsten dunce,... she needs a new grill, a boob job, a face lift and something seriously done to her hair.

This is all you have to add? What are you? 10? 12 years old?

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 01:29 PM

I didn't think she was, but I was making sure, since OP had said something implying that she was. *shrug* I don't care to follow movie stars so much, so I don't know these things as well as most.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 03:38 PM

Sailor you seem pretty open minded and nuts. Which I admire. Can you send me some naked photos? (seriously)

The Justification thing has always annoyed me. Every villain in every film needs some kind of tortured background to justify their actions during the film.

Gangster No.1, Godfather I & II, and Casino all had villains without some kind of backstory. They were sociopaths or completely separated from reality, living in their own world.

If you want to have a a villain who loves his sick daughter, don't try make him evil because his daughter is sick, just make him an evil guy who happens to love his sick daughter. Even bad guys are capable of affection. Hitler had a dog he loved and he took it with him to all his HQ's scattered over europe.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 06:17 PM

I finally saw it this afternoon. It was entertaining but just way too much stuff crammed into one movie.

While I applaud them for making Sandman interesting even though he's one of the lamer Spidey villains, it's hard to really look at his story when it's also telling the story of Harry Osborn and Eddie Brock/Venom AND the alien symbiote.

Gwen Stacy is also introduced in a weird backwards way as well, not playing nearly the role she should have.

Spoilers (mostly from the original comic and a little from the movie too):

Having Gwen stacy appear as a weird quasi-Peter Parker girlfriend when in the comics she's the ORIGINAL Peter Parker girlfriend is weird. She's supposed to die and her story is told over 100+ issues, not just 2 hours of movie.

The story of Gwen Stacy (the real story, not the bastardized version presented with Mary Jane replacing her in the original movie) is a tragic one. It is, after all, Spider-Man that kills her... the woman he loves. It's a horrific accident that haunts Peter. He has to live with the fact that he killed her... and it's so damn sad, especially given that he thinks he has saved her life. Even despite the fact that he was fighting Green Goblin (I still consider this the second worst Spidey villain after The Vulture) it is still an amazing but sad story.

Also, Venom's story as well as the story of the symbiote spans hundreds of comics and is crammed into about 1.5 hours on film (only 25% of it dedicated to that story specifically).


I don't know if I agree with Topher Grace's portrayal of Eddie Brock either. Brock was supposed to be a muscle-bound dude, not another smarmy guy exactly like Peter Parker. The banter between the two of them is just Snarkfest 2007.

Also, I have MAJOR issues with the suit not looking like it's supposed to. It isn't supposed to seep into an actual suit and turn it black, it's supposed to BE its own suit. That's the point.

Plus, there was that whole era where Peter Parker wore the cloth black suit (because Black Cat said it made him look sexy) after he rid himself of the symbiote. Completely skipped over.

I dunno. There were a few changes in the original movie (substituting MJ for Gwen Stacy, for example in the Green Goblin battle) but they were minor and not quite as distracting. Perhaps it's just that the Black suit/Venom era spanned most of my early Spider-Man influence.

However, as spectacle it was highly entertaining. The Bruce Campbell scene may have topped his Spider-Man 2 appearence (though that one was pretty good too).

I just think that two incredibly powerful Spider-Man stories are not done justice by this movie.

1.) The story of Gwen Stacy (see above spoiler if you're curious, but it will ruin it for you) which remains a pivotal moment in comic book history, showing a superhero as fallible.

2.) The story of the symbiote and later Venom. Another story that is very complex. The suit in the comic does not join Peter, take him over, turn him slightly evil then leave to form Venom over the span of 2-3 days... it's a LONG saga.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 08:53 PM

Regarding Kirsten Dunst: Yes, she's very cute. She's nothing like the fiery, sultry MJ of the comics though. MJ was the wild foil to the good-girl Gwen Stacy (or at least that's how I always saw it). That's been reversed for the films apparently.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:25 PM

I definately have to see this film, but to be honest I've got more hope for the sequel to it. I NEED to see the Separation Anxiety and Maximum Carnage storylines on the big screen and I HOPE they have the sense to do that. Any seconds?

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:33 AM

I liked it. it didn't drop in quality from the last two so i got exactly what i expeted. THere's little reason to be justifiabley let down by this film if you've seen the first two.

two points...

1. i realize they didn't have time to introduce venom the original way, but the fact that they played up jamersons astronaut nephew in 2 pretty much pointed is down the wrong direction... and the actual introduction of probability defying absurdity was lazy and lame.

2. holy shit! what happened to thomas hayden church. he must have worked out 24/7 and eaten a cow a day.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (Spoon Poetic @ May 8 2007, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Kirsten Dunst is cute, and her boobs are big enough as is. But I do agree that she isn't Mary Jane Watson. She's too cute, she's like, all bouncy innocent. Of course, I still haven't seen the third one. But based off of the first two.

Is Kirsten a natural redhead, though?





No she's a blonde

Which is lucky 'cuz she's
not a cute redhead either

Though Dallas Bryce Howard
who plays Gwen is originally a redhead

makes you wonder if the roles
should've been reversed

since Dallas is cuter than
Kirsten even with all the extra baby weight.

Its just disappoiting that they
cut the Gwen scenes short b/c

of the actresses pregnancy.
They still should've explored

the Peter/Gwen relationship further
instead of the prop that she became.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (TruJade @ May 10 2007, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though Dallas Bryce Howard
who plays Gwen is originally a redhead

makes you wonder if the roles
should've been reversed


It's interesting considering MJ and Gwen in the movies are certainly playing their roles in reverse of their comic book counterparts.

Very interesting.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:19 PM

Gwen should have been killed by Norman Osbourne ( as was the case in the comics) and MJ should have been the rebound. Harry should have been dating MJ for all of episode 1 and they should have drifted apart during episode 2. MJ and Peter should have hooked up and this would have made Harry super mad, along side thinking Peter was responsible for his fathers death.


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