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the REAL reason why the new trilogy sucks.

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Posted 19 April 2007 - 01:05 PM

george lucas directed the original trilogy of star wars. even though irvin kirschner directed empire strikes back, and richard so-and-so directed return of the jedi,.they are all the brainchild visions of george lucas himself.

george lucas was very integral to the final outcome of each of these releases, ever since "A New Hope" debuted in 1977. The only thing that was lacking, according to Lucas, was technology. Other than that, the storylines are all his design. Its because of Lucas that these films were all hits in their own right.

fast-forward some 16 years into the future. George Lucas has gotten much older, his energy has slowed down, his brain doesnt function as well as it used to. He has trouble writing stories now, and coming up with crap that makes logical sense. So, in turn he has used his oodles of cashflow to hire some other people to write and make-up canonical crap for him.

People like Doug Chiang,.. that fat lazy nerdy fuck..Rob Coleman,..that bumbling idiot Rick McCallum, and John Knoll (who looks a lot like capt. william riker from Star Trek). These guys, and many more like them come up with some pretty crazy ideas for the new Star Wars trilogy films, and present their ideas to George Lucas for final "yea" or "nay" decisions.

George Lucas realizes the whole while, he is pressed for time, and must get each movie out to the theatres by a pre-set date (usually in May). He is constantly shown ideas by Doug Chiang of what the new starcraft should look like..usually George Lucas thinks all of the ideas are horsecrap, and wishes he could trash them all,..but Lucas realizes that he is no picasso himself,.and finally gives in to one of Dougie's ideas that isnt too too awful.

Then after Lucas has taken about a two hour lunch break to snack on some Oreo's and 2% fat milk, he sits his ass down in a leather recliner seated about 6 inches away from that holy nerd-fuck Rob Coleman, and Lucas watches in absolute wrenching horror as Robby shows Lucas what he has been toying around with on his 'puter. Lucas tries not to go to sleep, and constantly farts in his chair as Rob tries not to notice to much...and says to Lucas "Lookie..George,.I have Yoda,.and this time he has a lightsaber!..do you like? Do you like?"

George tugs at his hair and beard, and tries to come up with a logical arguement, but afterwards just says he doesnt like it,..so Robbie makes some more changes to it,.and then Lucas finally agrees to the changes., and its the crap we end up with on film. Then there was the similiar PC development session when Jar-Jar Binks was in initial development,.but since everyone hates Jar-Jar, we wont get into all that.

Basically all of the crappy ideas, concepts, and lines arent fully Lucas' ideas. Many things have been altered with or without Lucas's conscious consent. Because there is so much going on at one time..so many elements being proposed,.its impossible for Lucas to single-handedly approve them all. Lucas sees the initial blue screen shots, and about 3 days later, its finished its run-down on PC touch-ups, and is ready for the final print.

So, dont blame Lucas alone if you despise the new trilogy,.hate the guys that are more responsible for a lot of the work that went into the new films.
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 08:20 PM

Watch the 'making of' minidocs on the second disc of ROTS. It gives a good insight into the decision making processes behind the production.

Lucas walks and talks like a God. The production staff are in awe, and talk about him with awe. Lucas is in that place where he believes he can do nothing wrong. He gets an idea, and it's never challenged because he believes he *is* Star Wars. It's never discussed in a one-on-one fashion with any of the production crews. They tell him whatever he thinks is a great idea.

Consider Greivous. A crappy character. They have a minidoc on how they came up with the character. Let's face it: He was a crappy design, completely non-scary and with that absurd mock Italian accent. In the minidocs when they put him together, no one ever challenged Lucas, and Lucas never solicited anyone's opinion: "Hey what do you think about this?" Instead before Lucas enters the room they're like nervous pilgrims about to meet their God. When God appears with a little hanko and stamps artwork 'worthy of entering the canon' it's religious, and never questioned or debated.

The influence of the CGI staff is way out of control too. They just want to play with their animation toys. They said they fought over who would do Grievous, because it was a great opportunity to play with CGI cloth animators (I'm not kidding. They actually say that.) They're not concerned with the story, and tell 'George' anything with CGI is a great idea, which is exactly what George wants to be told.

Lucas thinks he *is* Star Wars. True, he gave birth to it, but it's no longer his.

J.R.R. Tolkein's excuse for writing so many crappy sequels to Lord of the Rings was he has been dead for the last 30 years. Lucas's is he believes in his own infallibility.

This post has been edited by Toru-chan: 19 April 2007 - 08:22 PM

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 12:57 AM

I don't know the special features
on AOTC is probably the best
i've seen with all it's musical
swells and and behind the scenes

of how they made Yoda digital.
Although..... the way they make the
connection between New and Old Obiwan
or how they wanted to give Anakin a Ponytail

thats just creepy.
Granted everyone knows the new trilogy
is not up to snuff with the old
i'm in a crazy mood and

i say it coulda been a
whole lot worse.

Duct tape is like the force....

There's a lightside, a darkside

and it holds everything together


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