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#1 User is offline   WanderingStoryteller Icon

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 06:54 PM

I've been a fan of interactive fiction for years now, ever since playing the classic Infocom games in the late 80s/early 90s. A few years back I even tried to write a game in Inform6, but gave up when I realized that I just couldn't be arsed to learn the language. I hadn't been following IF-related developments for awhile, and then suddenly, Yahtzee comes out with the Countdown series. Playing those games inspired me to take a look at the new Inform7, and see if this "natural language" is all it's cracked up to be. I'm currently trying to code my game in Inform7; the jury's still out on whether it's easier than Inform6...

...anyway, I was browsing around the IF Archive, via the superb Baf's Guide, and I was surprised to come across this. Seems that the Countdown series was not Yahtzee's first foray into interactive fiction. These lost pieces of Yahtzeeana seem to have been written around the time of the Arthur Yahtzee games. They're quite well-written (I found Hell's Cheesecake especially witty), however, IMHO, he's gotten much better at designing puzzles since then. Read the text file with Offensive Probing for a look at some intriguing projects that, sadly, never came to fruition.
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 10:33 PM

Hey nice find. Im having trouble on Probing,

Spoiler: How do I get the generator going again?
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:13 PM

Ugh, why did you have to dredge this shit up
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:32 PM

Because you have an unrelentingly inquisitive, somewhat overly so, fanbase. Damn, should it even be suprising anymore?
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:48 PM

QUOTE (Yahtzee @ Feb 25 2007, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ugh, why did you have to dredge this shit up


Hey Im actually enjoying this probing game. Im rather stuck at the moment but i am enjoying it nonetheless.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 04:00 AM

Well, as your leader I command you to not like them because they suck and I'm ashamed I ever made such shit.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 04:05 AM

AYE AYE CAPTAIN!!!

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 05:05 AM

QUOTE (Yahtzee @ Feb 25 2007, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, as your leader I command you to not like them because they suck and I'm ashamed I ever made such shit.


Haha, well anyway I finished Probing, it wasn't too bad. Not nearly as good as your graphical games like the Chzo Mythos ones but not crap.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 05:35 AM

Can we please stop talking about probing Mr. Yahtzee now? sick.gif

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:26 AM

He'll be decrying Chzo Mythos in five years, mark my words.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:41 AM

QUOTE (Yahtzee @ Feb 25 2007, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, as your leader I command you to not like them because they suck and I'm ashamed I ever made such shit.


Nothing to be ashamed of here, boss. If anything, it shows the evolution of your craft. Granted, I'm sure there are things out there with my name on it that'll come back to bite me in the ass when I become a bestselling novelist, but from what I gather, your audience is perceptive enough to see that these games are not representative of what you would produce nowadays (e.g., nobody would expect an illogical puzzle like Offensive Probing's child-proof bottle in a contemporary Yahtzee game). We're always our own worst critics.

Besides, these two games are Shakespeare compared to some of the pieces of crap that you'll find elsewhere in the IF Archive.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 12:12 PM

EDIT: Never mind, finished it. Was a bit unnessersarily complicated, yes, but meh.

This post has been edited by Chyld: 25 February 2007 - 12:55 PM

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (WanderingStoryteller @ Feb 26 2007, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nothing to be ashamed of here, boss. If anything, it shows the evolution of your craft. Granted, I'm sure there are things out there with my name on it that'll come back to bite me in the ass when I become a bestselling novelist, but from what I gather, your audience is perceptive enough to see that these games are not representative of what you would produce nowadays (e.g., nobody would expect an illogical puzzle like Offensive Probing's child-proof bottle in a contemporary Yahtzee game). We're always our own worst critics.

Besides, these two games are Shakespeare compared to some of the pieces of crap that you'll find elsewhere in the IF Archive.


I have heard so many complaints from reviews about that child proof bottle thing, yet I got it pretty easy. The only trouble I had was trying to get the generator going before going to the medical room. Which of course is the wrong way round.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:22 PM

Actually this is pretty bad.
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (Digitaaliklosetti @ Feb 26 2007, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually this is pretty bad.


Nooo, these are the bestest games in the Universe!
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