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#168
Posted 07 May 2005 - 12:17 PM
Ben: well, anakin fell to the darkside, so its true from my point of view.
L: but ben, you said anakin was a pilot.
B: well, a pod is a flying vehicle, so its true from my point of view.
L: but ben, you said yoda trained you.
B: well, yoda helped me after qui-gon died, so its true from my point of view.
L: but ben, it sounds like you're full of shit.
B: you'll find that most nebulous phrases are based largely on bullshit and that one character's few lines of exposition should not be upheld as a solid basis for three other movies. remeber, no one mentioned you had a sister in ANH but that doesnt mean we wont see her in other movies. heck, ben isnt even my real name!
if you take the events of PT as fact, ben's statements become consistently vague.
DING! DING! DING! That is exactly the problem. I think most of us were expecting to have the prequels NOT make the narrator out to be consistently vague. I also think that it would have been cooler had Anakin actually been a pilot rather than a podracer. The fact that he is a podracer instead and thereby makes OB1 look like a fool or a liar is just gravy on the I HATE GL train.
The mere fact that by twisting old characters senility and creating elaborate explanations it is POSSIBLE to reconcile the two trilogies, does not mean that it is good.
I dont dislike the PT because they are IMPOSSIBLE to reconcile. I dislike them because in order to reconcile them it ruins alot of the characters and my expectations of the PT. Therefore your ABILITY to reconcile them is wholly irrelevant.
#170
Posted 07 May 2005 - 04:10 PM
This post has been edited by xenduck: 07 May 2005 - 04:12 PM
#171
Posted 07 May 2005 - 06:11 PM
#172
Posted 07 May 2005 - 07:47 PM
"Luke: but ben, you said vader killed anakin.
Ben: well, anakin fell to the darkside, so its true from my point of view.
L: but ben, you said anakin was a pilot.
B: well, a pod is a flying vehicle, so its true from my point of view.
L: but ben, you said yoda trained you.
B: well, yoda helped me after qui-gon died, so its true from my point of view.
L: but ben, it sounds like you're full of shit.
B: you'll find that most nebulous phrases are based largely on bullshit and that one character's few lines of exposition should not be upheld as a solid basis for three other movies. remeber, no one mentioned you had a sister in ANH but that doesnt mean we wont see her in other movies. heck, ben isnt even my real name!"
#173
Posted 08 May 2005 - 01:12 PM
#174
Posted 10 May 2005 - 07:49 AM
Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"
All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
#175
Posted 10 May 2005 - 09:15 AM
#178
Posted 10 May 2005 - 12:32 PM
Don't worry Xenduck; I am talking about the OT here, since that nonsense comes up in JEDI. This is where the rot of revisionist Lucas set in, accompanied by the incredible lies about how he'd based his works on Jospeh Campbell and that he'd had nine fims planned from the beginning.
Yes, there is no accounting for taste. People will disagree on matters of personal opinion. But it's not even a matter of opinion that the backstory of Anikin in the OT does not match the stuff shown in the PT. They're two different stories, and it will be impossible now to watch them in order and to maintain any illusion of a continuous thread. I understand you won't accept this, so just try it when they are all out on DVD. Watch them in order and see the difference. Not just in the effects; God knows with a consistent storyline fans would not have minded retro effects, even. The difference is in the story, where Vader goes from main character to background menace.
Lucas's current insistence that the series has always been about Anikin, his rise, fall and redemption will stand out as the dumbest statement of all. It'd be like saying that Lord of the Rings was always supposed to be about the Balrog.
#179
Posted 10 May 2005 - 01:44 PM
magee, what i mean is that the OT is subjective. open to extrapolation. most people were content to come up with their own ideas about the backstory of the OT and thus were upset when their ideas didnt match lucas'. others, especially those (not including me) who werent exposed to the OT until the PT came out, wont notice the problems the aforementioned are facing. so in my humble opinion, liking the 'complete' saga comes down to various tastes; and who knows where different people get their different tastes.
#180
Posted 10 May 2005 - 08:49 PM