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Posted 24 February 2008 - 05:35 PM

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I honestly do. First of all its their country, and its a government that their parents elected with their blood. ...


I cannot argue against what you think. I'm sure you think that way. But I'm also convinced that a lot of people in Cuba would rather live in Florida.
When Cuba will have a free election with observers from foreign countries and all that, I guess one of us will be proven wrong, though I can't see that happening too soon.


QUOTE (J m HofMarN @ Feb 24 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
President Castro does not torture, every government has some form of secret police, and every government will use violence to defend itself. If you compare what Castro has done for Cuba in the past 50 years to what happened under US backed regimes at the same time he was ruling you will have no choice but to accept that Cuba was better off under Castro. Nicaragua, Chile, Panama, El Salvador and various other countries in the area had US backed dictatorships and tens of thousands were killed or tortured there. President Castro saved his people from a fate worse than death; domination.


You know, maybe you think this is monstrous but for some reason a government that kills people in some foreign land doesn't seem to me as bad as a government killing it's own people. A government's main business is taking care of it's own people.

(And yes, I do hate Bush for the mess he did in Irak, that's not the pun I was making)

As for Castro using (or not using) violence that's really not making the point. Saying that any government uses violence to defend itself is like saying we all all murderers: some of us step on a bug , others are children-serial-killers. The ammount of violence you are talking about does make a large diference.

I also accept that Cuba was better off under Castro than under your next-door-dictator, as I have said, I actually admire the man (from a somewhat distance kind of way). It is a lesser evil, granted. But an evil nontheless.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 11:08 AM

http://www.therealcuba.com/page5.htm
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 09:05 PM

Hey, check it out. I can post a bunch of photos of serial killers being executed and point out that the US government has executed thousands of people. Woodlyooooo!

Anyhow, as a counter to the ignorance of that author and what little sensationalized nonsense accompanies the photos of dead criminals meant to dredge up strong emotions, here is a section from page 387 of Jon Anderson's biography of Guevara. The quote is from Orlando Borrego, who helped to organize the judicial procedings:

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"Our paramount concerns were to ensure that the sense of revolutionary morality and justice prevailed, that no injustice was committed. In that, Che was very careful. Nobody was shot for hitting a prisoner, but if there was extreme torture and killings and deaths, then yes, they were condemned to death. The whole case was analyzed, all the witnesses seen, and the relatives of the dead or tortured person came, or the tortured person himself, and in the tribunal, displaying his body, would describe the tortures he had recieved at the hand of the accuses"


Che is a hero for destroying foreign agents, torturers and Batistiano thugs. I would have done no less.

The page also mentions murders in the Sierra Maestre. Do you know why people got popped there? CUZ THERE WAS A FUCKING WAR GOING ON! The rebels, numbering some 20-100 men in the first months of the Sierra uprising, depended on the peasantry for food and intelligence. But collaborators among the peasants would betray rebel soldiers and their own brothers who harbored rebel soldiers, to the village's bourgieoisie, who would then either use their own thugs or call in Batista's secret police to make reprisals against the villagers.

The village land owners complicit with Batista, the secret police, and anyone who ever informed to them deserved to die, and so they did, and the world is the better for it. Don't believe me? I offer yet another excerpt, this from Dr. Guevara De La Serna's own diary:

"The result [of the informants] was that they killed ten people, including two of David's muleteers, took all his merchandise, burned down all the houses in the area, and beat several of the neighbors badly, some of whom later died and others, like Israel's father, who suffered broken bones. According to our reports there were three chivatos(Spanish word for informer) and I asked for volunteers to kill tem. Many offered themselves, but I chose Israel, his brother, Manolito and Rodolfo. They left early with some little signs that said "Executed for being a traitor to the people, M-26-7""

Fuck anyone who informed on their fellow workers, they all got what they deserved. Betrayal of the revolution is bad enough, but to betray your neighbors or family deserves worse than death. I am glad Che was there to distribute justice.

The site next points out that the rebels shot people for desertion. Hey, every army does that. But the rebels had a particular reason. Anyone coming down from the Sierra would be captured, tortured, and forced to reveal details about the rebel positions. Death was a more merciful fate than running into Batista's men in the plains.

As for the final claim, that Col Rojas was killed simply for being a part of Batista's police force, bullshit. The letter claims that justice was done upon him on January 8, yet Santa Clara fell a full week earlier and the executions of Batista loyalists and chivatos occured directly afterwards. It looks to me as though the execution occured earlier, probably on the first or second day of 59, and that he was executed for complicity in some blasphemy on the part of the national police. He would have been given a trial.

The one who did not recieve a trial was another Batista criminal: Colonel Casillas. He was wanted for murdering rebel Jesus Menendez, and had tried to form a military Junta to take over the part of Cuba not yet in rebel hands. He was captured by Bordon's troops and told them to let him go as he had an understanding with Fidel that he would help to govern Cuba with the military (no such understanding existed, Castro did not want the old military forming a new dictatorship) Instead Bordon told him he would be taken to Che Guevara for judgement. Casillas reportedly begged to be taken to another rebel commander, and with good reason. Justice was swiftly done upon him.


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 07:57 AM

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Fuck anyone who informed on their fellow workers, they all got what they deserved. Betrayal of the revolution is bad enough, but to betray your neighbors or family deserves worse than death. I am glad Che was there to distribute justice.


Isn't it funny how quickly revolutions turn into the fascist regimes they are trying to destroy?

Sorry, but killing the very people you are trying to free does not make you a hero. Che Guevara was just a terrorist, using brutality to achieve his political goal.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:42 PM

Did you even bother to read my statement? I said Ernesto Guevara was feared by informants and government collaborators. Usually when he found one it was because the oppressed people of a village would notify him of their whereabouts or tell him there was a traitor somewhere. And Fidel's government is far different than Batista's. It's more orderly, less beholden to imperialists, and has done far more for all Cubans.

As for Che being a terrorist, I have no doubt he would proudly wear the latest title that denotes a good revolutionary.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 02:09 PM

The Cuban Revolution was a complete failure. All they did was replace one fascist government with another. Journalists are being sentenced to 20 years in prison for criticizing the revolution, women and children hanged, no due process of law, heavy censorship of all media. It's a fucking Orwellian nightmare. And the economy is in the shitter as well; Cuba's GDP per capita is a measly 4 thousand dollars, compared to the United States GDP per capita of over 40 thousand.

All Che Guevara did was kill a lot of people he deemed expendable for his political cause. And his legacy lives on in the form of t-shirts with his face on them, only $19.95 at your local Hot Topic.
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 02:36 PM

I have to point out that your last jab was both pathetic and totally off the mark. That sort of nonsense is a testament to the Culture Industry's ability to effortlessly assimilate even ideals that are polemically opposed to it into its throng of shit.

I can't speak for the rest of it either way, except that "women and children hanged" sounds like propagandist nonsense someone would make up because he/she didn't think that he/she had enough to justify his/her hatred (or maybe just wanted more reasons).
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 07:52 PM

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The Cuban Revolution was a complete failure.


Well what were you hoping for it to achieve?

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All they did was replace one fascist government with another.


HAHA my favorite word returns. Don't call His Excellency a fascist or I shall be forced to call you a communalist. Fun fact, President Castro was trained and aided by anti-fascist refugees from the Spanish civil war.

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Journalists are being sentenced to 20 years in prison for criticizing the revolution


For example...?

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women and children hanged


Puppies kicked.

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no due process of law, heavy censorship of all media.


The media is state run so I dont think they really censor their own media. As for no due process, I don't think you know what due process means.

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It's a fucking Orwellian nightmare.


I had an Orwellian nightmare once. The thought police were dragging the easter bunny away and all I had to fight them with was a can of creamed corn in a sock.

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And the economy is in the shitter as well; Cuba's GDP per capita is a measly 4 thousand dollars compared to the United States GDP per capita of over 40 thousand.


Isnt the economy of ANY developing nation in the shtiter when compared to the US? Could it be that this is not a fair scale to determine the proximity to the shitter of an economy?

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE (J m HofMarN @ Apr 16 2008, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The media is state run so I dont think they really censor their own media. As for no due process, I don't think you know what due process means.


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He was offered free medical service and then he was forced to pay. Methinks all the free medical service in Cuba is this way. Thing is, normal Cubans cant travel to other countries and complain about it on their blogs so we will never actually know if they have to pay or not. Then again, thats probably for the best because they might spread counterrevolutionary ideals.


QUOTE (Cobnat @ Feb 22 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fun fact, President Castro was trained and aided by anti-fascist refugees from the Spanish civil war.


So he was financed by totalitarian minded communist and you think thats better then being funded by fascists? Oh wait... look who Im asking.

So it seems the bastard might be close to dying.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 09:39 PM

Pointing out that the media is state run is not a good argument against "the media is heavily censored." State-run media is like, the ultimate in censorship of media.
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Posted 16 April 2008 - 12:41 AM

QUOTE (J m HofMarN @ Apr 15 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well what were you hoping for it to achieve?


Improve the country, establish a modern democratic government with constitutional rights, not piss off the United States and lead to a massive embargo, preventing any economic prosperity.

QUOTE (J m HofMarN @ Apr 15 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HAHA my favorite word returns. Don't call His Excellency a fascist or I shall be forced to call you a communalist. Fun fact, President Castro was trained and aided by anti-fascist refugees from the Spanish civil war.


Let's just go ahead and define fascism real quick:

A political regime based on strong centralized government, suppressing through violence any criticism or opposition of the regime, and exalting nation, state, or religion above the individual.

Oh, what do you know, that defines Cuba perfectly. Castro can try and pretend to be whatever he wants, but in reality, he's a fascist. Political figures do this all the time; they say they are communists/socialists and they want to help the workers and etc., but then they go and turn the country into a police-state. Even Hitler did it; the National Socialist German Workers Party wasn't exactly as socialist as the name implied.

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For example...?


Just ask Wikipedia:

The Cuban government has been accused of numerous human rights abuses, including torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, and extra-judicial executions.[81] Dissidents complain of harassment and torture.[82] While the Cuban government placed a moratorium on capital punishment in 2001, it made an exception for perpetrators of an armed hijacking 2 years later. Groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have issued reports on Cuban prisoners of conscience.[83] Opponents claim the Cuban government represses free exp​ression by limiting access to the Internet.[84]

Human Rights Watch claims that the true number of political prisoners may well be vastly understated.[85] According to Human Rights Watch, political prisoners, along with the rest of Cuba's prison population, are confined to jails with substandard and unhealthy conditions.[85]

In the last weeks of March 2003, the Cuban government sentenced 75 members of the opposition to prison terms of up to 28 years. The activists were charged with “disrespect” toward the Revolution, “treason,” and “giving information to the enemy,” in the harshest backlash against peaceful dissent that the island had seen in years.[86][87] Since 2003, human rights supporters have sent thousands of appeals to the Cuban authorities calling for the release of the prisoners. The numbers of recognized political prisoners varies over time, increasing and decreasing with circumstances. However all former political prisoners are subject to arbitrary re-arrest.[88] Political arrests continue.[89]

On the fourth anniversary of a major crackdown on human rights activists in Cuba that saw dozens sentenced to long prison terms for peaceful promotion of basic rights and freedoms, human rights organizations called for the release of the 59 prisoners who remain in jail, several of whom are seriously ill.[90] Organizations like Human Rights First called on the Cuban government and, in particular, to interim leader Raul Castro, to immediately and unconditionally release the 59 individuals who remain in prison since their arrest in the spring of 2003.

The Ladies in White are the wives and relatives of those imprisoned in a series of controversial 2003 arrests. They have persistently and peacefully advocated their release since then.[91]

Marta Beatriz Roque has been twice detained for her opposition to the government. In July 1997, she and three other dissidents were detained for publishing a paper titled "The Homeland Belongs to All,"[92] which discussed Cuba's human rights situation and called for political and economic reforms. The paper, which was labeled seditious by the government, led to her being imprisoned for a little over three years. On April 3, 2003, Roque was brought to trial and convicted. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison for engaging in “activities aimed at subverting the internal order of the Cuban State, provoking its destabilization and the loss of its independence,” and receiving “substantial monetary funds from the U.S. Government.” On July 22, 2004, Roque was unexpectedly released from prison due to her declining health. Medical parole, however, is given only for the duration of the illness. As such, she is subject to rearrest and detainment in the event that there is any improvement in her health. According to Amnesty International, Roque has been harassed repeatedly by Cuban government supporters and state security agents, including receiving death threats and being physically assaulted since her early release from prison.[93][94]

Normando Hernández González is an independent journalist sentenced to 25 years in prison in the spring of 2003 for his commentaries on Cuban society, including pieces on the Cuban health, educational and judicial systems, and for his promotion of free exp​ression. Mr. Hernández was apparently held in a cell for more than a year with a prisoner known to have tuberculosis, despite repeated concerns expressed by him and his family. He was recently confirmed to have contracted tuberculosis and is suffering from high fevers, fatigue and fainting. The doctors at Prison Kilo 7 in Camagüey, where he is being held, are reportedly refusing him medical assistance. There have also been reports that he has been physically assaulted by prison guards.[95]

José Luis García Paneque was sentenced to 24 years in prison in 2003 for his work as an independent journalist, as well as for his involvement in a civic initiative to promote democratic reforms, known as the Varela Project. García Paneque’s health has dramatically worsened since his imprisonment; he suffers from intestinal problems that have caused him to lose almost 90 pounds and at one point left him emaciated at a weight of around 110 pounds. He also suffers from rectal bleeding, and has dangerously low blood pressure. Despite these symptoms, his wife reports that he is not receiving adequate medical care and her request for his release on medical parole in November 2005 has not been answered.[96][97]

Luis Enrique Ferrer García received a 28-year sentence for his work with the Varela Project, a civic initiative calling for democratic reforms in Cuba. To protest his unjust imprisonment, particularly harsh prison conditions and mistreatment by prison authorities, Ferrer García has engaged in numerous hunger strikes throughout his detention, often leaving him very ill and weak. In addition, he has been the victim of numerous physical assaults by security guards and violent prisoners, most of whom are encouraged by prison authorities to harass and intimidate him.[98]

Oscar Elías Biscet is a physician and president of the Lawton Foundation for Human Rights, which peacefully promotes human rights and the rule of law. In reprisal for his human rights activities, the 41-year-old doctor was sentenced to 25 years in prison and has been held in some of the harshest conditions, including in punishment cells and solitary confinement. For long periods of time he is denied family visits, the right to leave his cell, and essential packages of medicine and food. Biscet suffers from chronic gastritis, hypertension and recurring infections, and is reportedly losing his eyesight; his poor health has been severely aggravated by unhygienic prison conditions and harsh treatment. At one point, Dr. Biscet was reported have lost more than 60 pounds.[99]

Although still clinging to official Cuban government view that racial progress was poor before Castro reached power (despite the obvious ethnicity of the leader and many senior members of the Batista regime) has eroded in the last few years.[100]

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The media is state run so I dont think they really censor their own media. As for no due process, I don't think you know what due process means.


If you think state run media is uncensored you are officially the dumbest person ever. Also, due process of law is the right to a fair trial by a jury of your peers. Cuba doesn't practice due process of law. They instead opt to use the Joseph Stalin approach; simply jailing/killing everyone they think is a traitor.

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Isnt the economy of ANY developing nation in the shtiter when compared to the US? Could it be that this is not a fair scale to determine the proximity to the shitter of an economy?


Yes, the economy of all developing nations are in the shitter. What I'm saying is, if this revolution was so successful and Che and Castro are such great people, why is Cuba one of those developing nations? Also, I don't think it's unfair to compare them to the US. The US economy isn't exactly the strongest economy in the world, but at least we have cars that weren't made in 1952.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 02:57 PM

Mmmm. Tasty cut and paste debate.

Again, I'm not here to debate human rights violations, but you keep opening and closing with fallacies and such that need to be addressed.

Cuba's revolution sucked and its leaders were terrible simply because the nation is still poor? I don't need to spell out that there are many many different factors that enter into determining the success of a nation to refute this attack.

It would be better to fellate the US government so as to be prosperous? I believe the US is the one who wanted to control Cuba with a puppet government, has repeatedly tried to invade the country to topple the government, and didn't they also put Batista into power? White man's burden/US supremacy much?
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Posted 16 April 2008 - 08:34 PM

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So he was financed by totalitarian minded communist and you think thats better then being funded by fascists? Oh wait... look who Im asking.


You want to claim that the Spanish republicans were totalitarian communists? I just finished a seven hundred page volume on El Guerra Civille Espanola. Try me.

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Pointing out that the media is state run is not a good argument against "the media is heavily censored." State-run media is like, the ultimate in censorship of media.


Point conceded then.

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Improve the country, establish a modern democratic government with constitutional rights, not piss off the United States and lead to a massive embargo, preventing any economic prosperity.


Cuntry improvements: Universal healthcare. Lower infant mortality than the US or anywhere else in South/Central America. 99% literacy (up from 50) INCREASE in per capital income. That's right. The 20 or so dollars plus rationing that most Cubans survive on is an INCREASE from what they were getting from Batista.

Your "not pissing off the US revolution" Is so laughable I scarcely need to comment. A revolution that doesn't piss off the US is no revolution, it's a coup financed by the CIA whose leaders are torturers and assassins beholden to Washington. You want to see a fucking revolution that makes America happy? Look at Chile. Pinochet butchered 10000 people. Nicaragua: 8000. Panama: 2000. Grenada: Some hundreds. Iraq: 200000 people. Iran: Several thousand people. Venezuela: Death toll below 100 because Chavez foiled the coup. Bay of pigs: Foiled, but still hundreds dead and a thousand prisoners later released by Castro in exchange for food and medicine.

If you're bad with math let me spell it out for you. The kind of revolutions that make the US happy usually involve thousands of deaths of poor people. Oh, and the selling of as much of the countries property to US businesses as is possible. Fuck US backed "revolutions" the true revolutionaries are the Ejercitos De Pueblos. No other group can claim to make the revolution, especially if they do so with aid from the imperialist power.

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A political regime based on strong centralized government, suppressing through violence any criticism or opposition of the regime, and exalting nation, state, or religion above the individual.


We already had this discussion in another thread. In the end we resolved that, just as every government is a communalism, so is every government a Ford Taurus. And Slade's mom was declared to be an oligarchy.

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In the last weeks of March 2003, the Cuban government sentenced 75 members of the opposition to prison terms of up to 28 years. The activists were charged with “disrespect” toward the Revolution, “treason,” and “giving information to the enemy,” in the harshest backlash against peaceful dissent that the island had seen in years


Ah yes. Well CLEARLY they're innocent. I mean all they're charged with is "Giving information to the enemy." Who could they POSSIBLY give information to? Gee, let me think. Maybe the country that has tried to murder Castro, invade his island, and sends 4 million fucking dollars to his enemies in the hopes of causing one of your Happy America™ revolutions? Could that be the enemy they give information to in return for some of that 4 million dollars? No, that's impossible. Theyre just being oppressed for no reason.

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Roque was brought to trial and convicted. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison for engaging in “activities aimed at subverting the internal order of the Cuban State, provoking its destabilization and the loss of its independence,” and receiving “substantial monetary funds from the U.S. Government.”


Ah so thats what makes Cuba evil. They dont allow people to work clandestinely for a foreign and hostile power. The US would NEVER arrest anyone for working for a foreign power. That's the reason there arent five Cubans rotting in a Miami jail for spying on terrorist cells, and thats the reason we dont arrest Muslims every other week for buying cell phones or other nefarious activities.

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Ferrer García has engaged in numerous hunger strikes throughout his detention, often leaving him very ill and weak. In addition, he has been the victim of numerous physical assaults by security guards and violent prisoners, most of whom are encouraged by prison authorities to harass and intimidate him.[98]


The scoundrels! They let their prisoners go on hunger strikes? We compassionate Americans, when dealing with indefinately detained inmates in Guantanamo who try to hunger strike, simply tie them down and force a tube through their nostrils to feed them. Much more humane, you see.

And I love the last part. Someone is assaulted in prison by other inmates so Fidel Castro is CLEARLY at fault. Contrast this to the US, where our prison population is quite well behaved and only bother other prisoners should they need a lump of sugar at tea time.

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Cuba doesn't practice due process of law. They instead opt to use the Joseph Stalin approach; simply jailing/killing everyone they think is a traitor.


Yes. Yes they do. Those people were given a trial. Even the people executed directly after the revolution were given trials. They are also charged with something, unlike inmates being tortured at Guantanamo after the Happy American™ revolutions in their country.

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What I'm saying is, if this revolution was so successful and Che and Castro are such great people, why is Cuba one of those developing nations? Also, I don't think it's unfair to compare them to the US. The US economy isn't exactly the strongest economy in the world, but at least we have cars that weren't made in 1952.


Ok. All revolutions are shit because they dont bring about an egalitarian utopia. IN YOUR FACE, HISTORICAL PROGRESS!!!!1111

And it's fair to compare Cuba to the US because we have newer cars. That one makes sense. Why dont they get new cars in Cuba? Oh I dont know, it couldnt have anything to do with that silly embargo. No, it's because Che Guevara and Fidel Castro are such darned screw ups.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 08:56 PM

On the subject of the US funding since you'll no doubt next move to complain about sources this is from Wikipedia:

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On September 8, 2006, it was revealed that at least ten South Florida journalists received regular payments from the U.S. government to broadcast propaganda programs on Radio Martí and TV Martí, two broadcasters aimed at undermining the Cuban government. The payments totaled thousands of dollars over several years. Those who were paid the most were veteran reporters and a freelance contributor for El Nuevo Herald, the Spanish-language newspaper published by the corporate parent of The Miami Herald. The Cuban government has long contended that some South Florida Spanish-language journalists were on the federal payroll.[3]

In November 2006, U.S. Congressional auditors accused the development agency USAID of failing properly to administer its program to promote democracy in Cuba. They said that USAID had channelled tens of millions of dollars through exile groups in Miami, which were sometimes wasteful or kept questionable accounts. The report said the organisations had sent items such as chocolate and cashmere jerseys to Cuba. Their report concludes that 30% of the exile groups who received USAID grants showed questionable expenditures.[4]


And here's a list of the terrorism against Cuban targets that just happened to, completely by accident, occur in the US without anyone ever bring apprehended for it, although, no doubt, our compassionate and justice minded authorities suuurely tried to apprehend the culprits of crimes that they clearly did not in any way support or organize.

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1967 April 3: New York City. The Cuban Mission to the United Nations is bombed; U.N. acting chief suffers non-fatal burns in the bombing.[8]
1967 October 16: New York City. Explosions across from the Cuban, Yugoslav, and Finnish missions to the United Nations.[8]
1968 January 25 : Miami. Package en route to Cuba explodes.[8]
1968 April 18 : New York City. The Mexican mission to the U.S. is bombed.[8]
1968 April 18 : Miami. The Mexican consul general's residence is damaged by a bomb.[8]
1968 June 21 : New York City. Spanish Nationalist Tourist office is bombed.[8]
1968 July 4 : New York City. The Canadian consulate and the tourist office are bombed. The Australian National Tourist Office is bombed.[8]
1968 July 7 : New York City. The Japanese National Tourist Office is bombed.[8]
1968 July 9 : New York City. The Yugoslav and Cuban missions to the United States are bombed.[8]
1968 July 14 : Chicago. The Mexican National Tourist Office is bombed.[8]
1968 July 16 : New Jersey. A bomb is found and removed from the Mexican consulate by police.[8]
1968 July 19 : Los Angeles. An Air France ticket office is damaged by a bomb. A Mexican National Tourist Office is bombed. A Shell Oil building is bombed. A Japan Air Lines office is bombed.[8]
1968 July 30 : Los Angeles. The British consulate is bombed.[8]
1968 August 3 : New York City. The Bank of Tokyo Trust Company is bombed.[8]
1968 August 5 : Los Angeles. The British consulate is bombed for a second time.[8]
1968 August 8 : Miami. An underwater explosion damages a British vessel near Miami.[8]
1968 August 17 : Miami. A Mexican airline office is bombed.[8]
1968 September 16 : Miami. Terrorist fire on a Polish vessel with rifiles.[8]
1972 March: A group calling themselves "the Secret Cuban Government" bombs a theater in New York and two drug stores in San Juan, Puerto Rico.[8]
1972 December : A travel agency in Queens, New York is bombed; the incident is attributed to FIN, a Cuban exile group.[8]
1972 December 11 : New York City. The VA-Cuba Forwarding Company is bombed.[8]
1973 March 28: The Center for the Cuban Studies is bombed.[8]
1973 July 24: New York City. The Martin Luther King, Jr., Labor Center is bombed during exhibition of pro-Fidel Castro material.[8]
1973 December: A business office in the New York City area is bombed.[8]
1973 December 30: Miami. A British freighter is bombed;[8]
1974 November 9 : Washington, D.C. Organization of American States building bombed.[8]
1975 February 1: New York City. The Venezuelan Consulate is bombed.[8]
1975 February 6: Los Angeles. Unidos, a socialist bookstore run by the October League, is bombed;[8]
1975 February 26: Los Angeles. KCET, a radio station, is bombed. Cuban exile group suspected because the station had just announced the showing of a Cuban film, "Lucia."[8]
1975 March 27: Los Angeles. Panama Government Tourist Bureau and Costa Rican Consulate are damaged slightly by separate bomb blast. Panama and Costa Rica had supported Cuba's readmission to the Organization of American States.[8]
1975 April 3: Los Angeles. An attempted bombing of the Communist Party office misfires;[8]
1975 April 13: Los Angeles. A bomb is dropped through the roof of the Unidos book store.[8]
1975 May 2: Santa Monica. A Socialist Workers Party bookstore is bombed.[8]
1975 May 7: Los Angeles. The leftist-oriented Midnight Special Bookstore is bombed.[8]
1975 July 15: Los Angeles. The Mexican consulate is bombed; four people are injured; $35,000 damage is done; it is suspected that the bombing was a joint action of the Hungarian Peace and Freedom Fighters, the Cuban Action Commandos, and the Nazi Group.[8]
1975 July 18: Washington, D.C. A bomb placed outside the Costa Rican embassy does not completely detonate.[8]
1975 October 6: Miami. The Dominican Republic consulate is bombed.[8]
1975 October 10: Ft. Lauderdale. The Broward County courthouse is bombed.[8]
1975 October 17: Miami. A bomb explodes in a luggage locker at Miami International Airport.[8]
1975 October 31: Miami. Bombing-assassination of Rolando Masferrer. The bomb is triggered by the car ignition[8]
1975 November 27: Miami. A time bomb in the restroom of a Bahamas Airlines jet is set to go off as passengers are loading for Nassau; a call indicates the bombing is anti-Castro and that a group called Cuban Power ‘76 is responsible.[8]
1975 December 3: Miami. Identical bombs explode on the eve of a visit by William D. Rogers, U.S. Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs, at the Social Security building, the Florida State Employment Service office, two Post Office buildings, and the FBI headquarters building.[8]
1975 December 4: Miami. The Miami Police Department and State Attorney's Office are bombed.[8]


I must concede one point. I quoted 4 million. I was incorrect:

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In 2003 the United States Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba was formed to "explore ways the U.S. can help hasten and ease a democratic transition in Cuba". The commission immediately announced a series of measures which included a tightening of the travel embargo to the island, a crackdown on illegal cash transfers, and a more robust information campaign aimed at Cuba.[14] Since 2005 the commission has been chaired by Condoleezza Rice and seeks to integrate the administration's Cuba policies with all the agencies of the federal government.[38] In response, Fidel Castro called the Commission a "group of shit-eaters who do not deserve the world's respect". Castro also referred to Rice as a "mad" woman and US Chief of Mission in Havana Michael E. Parmly as a "little gangster" and a "bully". Castro has insisted that, in spite of the formation of the Commission, Cuba is itself "in transition: to socialism [and] to communism" and that it is "ridiculous for the U.S. to threaten Cuba now".[39]

In April 2006, the Bush administration appointed Caleb McCarry "transition coordinator" for Cuba, providing a budget of $59 million


Mr President, you have my full agreement and backing. The "transition comittee" have my fullest encouragement to procede to dine upon excrement.

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You want to claim that the Spanish republicans were totalitarian communists? I just finished a seven hundred page volume on El Guerra Civille Espanola. Try me.


If all the Nationalists were fascists then all the Republicans were communists. You want to keep generalizing or should we just stop here?
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