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Posted 05 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

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Parents defend decision to keep girl a child

Her name is Ashley X, and she is the little girl who will never grow up.

Until New Year’s Day, not even her first name was known. Ashley was a faceless case study, cited in a paper by two doctors at Seattle Children’s Hospital as they outlined a treatment so radical that it brought with it allegations of “eugenics”, of creating a 21st-century Frankenstein’s monster, of maiming a child for the sake of convenience.

The reason for the controversy is this: three years ago, when Ashley began to display early signs of puberty, her parents instructed doctors to remove her uterus, appendix and still-forming breasts, then treat her with high doses of oestrogen to stunt her growth.

In other words, Ashley was sterilised and frozen in time, for ever to remain a child. She was only 6.

Ashley, the daughter of two professionals in the Seattle area, never had much hope of a normal life.

Afflicted with a severe brain impairment known as static encephalopathy, she cannot walk, talk, keep her head up in bed or even swallow food. Her parents argued that “keeping her small” was the best way to improve the quality of her life, not to make life more convenient for them.

Because of her small size, the parents say, Ashley will receive more care from people who will be able to carry her: “Ashley will be moved and taken on trips more frequently and will have more exposure to activities and social gatherings ... instead of lying down in her bed staring at TV all day long.”

By remaining a child, they say, Ashley will have a better chance of avoiding everything from bed sores to pneumonia — and the removal of her uterus means that she will never have a menstrual cycle or risk developing uterine cancer.

Because Ashley was expected to have a large chest size, her parents say that removing her breast buds, including the milk glands (while keeping the nipples intact), will save her further discomfort while avoiding fibrocystic growth and breast cancer.

They also feared that large breasts could put Ashley at risk of sexual assault.

The case was approved by the hospital’s ethics committee in 2004, which agreed that because Ashley could never reproduce voluntarily she was not being subjected to forced sterilisation, a form of racial cleansing promoted in the 1920s and known as eugenics (it was satirised in F. Scott Fitzgerald’s novel The Great Gatsby). However, the case of Ashley X was not made public, and, as a result, no legal challenges were ever made.

Ashley’s doctors, Daniel Gunther and Douglas Diekema, wrote in their paper for the October issue of the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine that the treatment would “remove one of the major obstacles to family care and might extend the time that parents with the ability, resources and inclination to care for their child at home might be able to do so”.

The paper inspired hundreds of postings on the internet: many supportive, others furious. “I find this offensive if not perverse,” read one. “Truly a milestone in our convenience-minded society.”

It was the critical comments that finally provoked Ashley’s father to respond.

While remaining anonymous, he posted a remarkable 9,000-word blog entry at 11pm on New Year’s Day, justifying his decision.

The posting includes links to photographs of Ashley, in which the faces of other family members, including Ashley’s younger sister and brother, have been blanked out. “Some question how God might view this treatment,” he wrote. “The God we know wants Ashley to have a good quality of life and wants her parents to be diligent about using every resource at their disposal . . . to maximise her quality of life.”

Ashley’s father went on to describe how her height is now expected to remain at about 4ft 5in (1.3m), and her weight at 75lb (34kg). Without the treatment, she would have grown into a woman of average height and weight, probably about 5ft 6in and 125lb, with a normal lifespan.

The medical profession is divided. “I think most people, when they hear of this, would say this is just plain wrong,” wrote Jeffrey Brosco. of the University of Miami, in an editorial. “But it is a complicated story . . . (But) high-dose oestrogen therapy to prevent out-of-home placement simply creates a new Sophie’s Choice for parents to confront.

“If we as a society want to revise the nature of the harrowing predicament that these parents face, then more funds for home-based services, not more medication, is what is called for.”

George Dvorsky, a director of the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies, countered: “If the concern has something to do with the girl’s dignity being violated, then I have to protest by arguing that the girl lacks the cognitive capacity to experience any sense of indignity.”

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I suppose the only real question is "is it right?

The arguement against it is "it deprives her of her rights as a human being". But in this sense, what do we mean by rights? You can complain about losing a mans right to free speech, because it can be taken away. Actually growing up is so intrinsically tied to human existance, you may as well speak of someones right to let their fingernails grow, or their right to hear sounds.

Is it nessersarily in her best interests? The problem being, she has no way of communicating her interests, and indeed barely has any interests to communicate. She has nothing to lose (is it worth being an adult if you are unable to comprehend such a notion?), and plenty to suffer (in terms of assorted pains), so the tradeoff seems benefitial.

Yes, but do we ant such a practise established as a rule? To stop the aging process as a matter of convenience? I throw open the floor.
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:44 PM

This is sickening. I must say, when I heard the quote, "Childhood is a series of happy delusions," I laughed and I could see how that is, but this is sad. Part of growing up is learning to grow up. Her parents have denied her the real life experiences. They have denied her the chance of growing. Puberty, though strange, is necessary. Becoming an adult, carrying on the genes, growing old, this is just life.

This is really sad.
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Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:14 AM

WHAT THE FUCK~!

WHy did they do it to her, I still don't understand?
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Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:14 AM

Don't forget, she wouldn't ever actually have the capacity to realise that she's growing up, going through puberty, etc.
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Posted 06 January 2007 - 09:45 PM

They don't really emphasize the fact the child is EXTREMELY mentally disabled. That being said... I don't like the sound of it. There are any number of ways to twist this into really nasty directions, and it will be twisted.
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Posted 07 January 2007 - 09:15 AM

From my understanding, in this case it sounds like a good idea. To my mind, puberty has advantages and disadvantages. In her mental state, she's not going to benefit from any of the advantages, and suffer the disadvantages in full. Going through the problems of puberty and not being able to move at all...I wouldn't see losing that as any moral problem.
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Posted 07 January 2007 - 04:53 PM

The girl can't grow, and they think she'll have an extremely large bust size? what's all that about?
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Posted 07 January 2007 - 05:43 PM

it sounds like she can't grow because of the treatment they're giving her.

while this does seem extremely creepy in many ways, it does sound like she'll be able to live at home with her parents. as far as I know, most kids with debilitating conditions such as hers get sent to live at boarding-home type places, where they are taken care of by nurses. I think if the parents were concerned solely with 'convenience,' then this is what they would have done. I honestly can't say whether she'd be better off if her parents took care of her, with her living as a child for the rest of her life, or if she were being taken care of by professionals. I am curious to see how this method will work out for this family.
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Posted 07 January 2007 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE (Despondent @ Jan 7 2007, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The girl can't grow, and they think she'll have an extremely large bust size? what's all that about?

I think the idea is that large busts run in her family, hence the operations to avoid development.

QUOTE (Cyzyk @ Jan 7 2007, 02:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They don't really emphasize the fact the child is EXTREMELY mentally disabled. That being said... I don't like the sound of it. There are any number of ways to twist this into really nasty directions, and it will be twisted.

I see where you're coming from, but I'm not so sure the operation has many practical benefits outside of extreme cases like this one. Many kids with not quite as extreme (yet still severe) mental handicaps go on to live happy, productive, and indeed autonomous lives. Keeping them as kids would be a severe drain on their parents, and not nessersarily provide any benefit to the kid. While in this case, with no chance of any further mental development, the operation makes life easier for her and her parents.

Don't get me wrong, I know this sort of operation is going to be perverted and abused by humankind, but for the life of me I can't see how or why it'd be useful in 9999/10000 cases.
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Posted 08 January 2007 - 12:14 AM

It's pretty well established in another article I've read that the only way she's leaving bed is if someone lifts her out of it. She pretty much reached the height of her development when she was a month old. Its her parents' choice and I say let them choose. They talk about how keeping her from growing to a size that her parents cant care for her would be undignified. In my view if people were concerned with dignity they'd be pushing euthanasia. It's amazing how much these right to life people enjoy human misery.

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 01:18 AM

Yeah we're definitely at an odd place in our social development, where we insist on keeping everyone alive no matter how disabled. The added touch of turning her into a human Bonsai tree is just fucking awesome. I bet we hear about this for one or two weeks at most, and then it's gone forever.
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Posted 08 January 2007 - 12:15 PM

Can't we find out if babies in the womb are going to be born handicap? Can't we see down syndrome and all the other things way before they are born?
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Posted 08 January 2007 - 12:17 PM

It's very sad but Civ2
is probably right.

Most people would stop and ponder
at this girl for a bit then lose interest and
move on to the next tragedy.

Either way Ashley would've had a difficult life.
My question is how much would she have
suffered being able to age normally?

And going thru puberty.
If in fact she is too severly

brain damaged to
understand the changes.

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 12:17 PM

I think we can tell most things already.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 02:58 PM

Jordan- We surely can, for the low low price of.... Yeah, you don't wanna know. It's definately possible to check for genetic defects and such but most people would never think to do it unless there's a family history. And if they do the costs would be horribly prohibitive.

The eugenics angle is a much more interesting debate though, which kind of touches on this. Should people with mental or physical deformities of great severity be produced, or allowed to reproduce? Eugenics says no, but what we're finding is that such deformities don't travel straight across blood lines, they often just pop up based on combinations of different genomes. Nature is always poking around saying "Well what if I do THIS?" and invariably it turns out badly sometimes.

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