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Clone Wars Cartoon – Is it canon? Or is it to be relegated to the EU

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Posted 16 November 2003 - 08:07 AM

Since GL actually watched the Clone Wars cartoon and gave his personal approval, would it be reasonable to consider the events of the cartoon as canon?

I don’t know who did the reckoning before, but an early list included: the movies, novelizations, and the radio recordings.

Given the strengths and limitations of each medium, each could contribute to the bare essence of GL’s creation, as opposed to an acquired monetary franchise where companies simply make up the storyline with input from LFL (which isn’t necessarily GL).

Here’s something that impacts the SW universe depending on whether the cartoon is considered canon:

In Chapter 6, Asajj Ventress says she is Sith, not just an expert in lightsaber fighting. Are there suddenly more that just the master and apprentice, thus, breaking the so-called Rule of Two?
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Posted 16 November 2003 - 01:50 PM

All she is is a Dark Jedi who follows the ways of the Sith, she's not technically a Sith. And by the way, I think the cartoons, while EXTREMELY short, are actually pretty damn good, very good production values (I'm surprised at Tartovsky's art or whoever he is, it actually works very well), interesting storylines, it is much better than I thought it would be.
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 08:43 PM

I hate to bring up old topics...But I am bored. Sue me.


I for one, just recently obtained Vol.1 of the CLONE WARS on DVD and found it to be extremely well done.


As for the Sith thing, consider this:

In the Kinghts of the Old Republic game (which is considered part of the SW universe), it says that the Sith were an entirely different species. People went to the Sith homeworld and over time, the two species emerged as one. It also says that real Sith dies out ages ago, and modern ones are merely followers of an ideal.
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 08:48 PM

OMG!!!11!

Like I said in another thread, I don't consider Jedi and Sith a race.

But to the point. I too liked the cartoons. Shame. Anyway, they have to be considered official storyline, cause GG got his chest chrushed in the cartoon, and it happened in ep.III.
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 08:54 PM

However, didnt Ki Adi Mundi die in the cartoon, and then die in the film in a different manner? Or am I to assume that there are two Jedi Knights from his species of coneheaded people?
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 10:42 PM

QUOTE (Vwing @ Nov 16 2003, 01:50 PM)
All she is is a Dark Jedi who follows the ways of the Sith, she's not technically a Sith.  And by the way, I think the cartoons, while EXTREMELY short, are actually pretty damn good, very good production values (I'm surprised at Tartovsky's art or whoever he is, it actually works very well), interesting storylines, it is much better than I thought it would be.


I really like Tartovsky's style.. granted he started with Dexter's Laboratory, and then did Samuri Jack (Which has won emmy's for soundtrack and maybe more I'm not sure.) which I totally dig. So I was extremely excited to hear he was doing these before they came out. Now that Lucas has decided to turn it into a 30 min episodic series, I'm not sure what to think.. mainly because I heard it was going to go to 3D rendered.. which could be very bad. (I'm not sure how well Tartovsky's style will translate.) Only time will tell.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 07:37 AM

I hate to bring up old topics...But I am bored. Sue me.

LOL.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 12:28 PM

As far as I'm concerned, any decent EU stuff is considered canon (so The Baby Ewok's Picnic Surprise and The Star Wars Holiday Special are immediately out of the equation).

By any rate, Lucas is pretty strict about what fits into 'his' universe, so yeah, Clone Wars is canon.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 12:51 PM

This is a good topic that needs to be resurrected.

It can be argued that it is canon. I mean, the novel mentions specific things that happened in the cartoons. Are some of those planets mentioned by Obi-Wan and Anakin events from the cartoons? I'm not familiar enough with the cartoons to know for sure.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 03:20 PM

It has to be canon because in the second series of the cartoon, Chancellor Palpatine was abducted by General Grievous, and the Ep 3 does open up with Obi-Wan and Anakin rescuing Palpatine. This is about the only instance that I can think of that connects the movies with the cartoons. Any others?
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 04:41 PM

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I'm not familiar enough with the cartoons to know for sure.

I'm not familiar enough with the novels to know for sure. tongue.gif
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 05:53 PM

As previously mentioned, General Grievous abducts Palpatine in Clone Wars, which triggers ROTS... also, characters and events in Clone Wars link in with the books, comics and games, which in turn, cross over with the movie. The EU isn't the mess it once was. You still get the occasional media that steps over the line and messes with the continuity (like The Glove of Darth Vader, which said that Vader had an indestructable glove that survived the Death Star II blowing up somehow), but overall, most EU things can be fitted quite nicely into the Star Wars canon.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 05:58 PM

Also it has been stated by lucasfilm and cartoon network that the Clone Wars cartoons are what happen between EP2 and EP3 wink.gif (Although I can't find the link where to confirm that at the moment.)
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 06:05 PM

On a kind of lame side note it seems like there might be some sort of trend developing in which people use cartoons to fill in the blanks between the 2nd and 3rd movies in a trilogy. The people from the Matrix did it, and Star Wars is doing it... what's next, I wonder... WHATS NEXT?
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Rory @ Jun 5 2005, 06:05 PM)
On a kind of lame side note it seems like there might be some sort of trend developing in which people use cartoons to fill in the blanks between the 2nd and 3rd movies in a trilogy. The people from the Matrix did it, and Star Wars is doing it... what's next, I wonder... WHATS NEXT?


Ah but Matrix did it for a reason. They were inspired by anime in the first place.. so they wanted to go back to that and have all the big names in anime do something as sort of a tribute back to the roots of the matrix.

But true.. will there be an Indy cartoon before Indy 4 comes out?
Or how about a Jason cartoon before his next horror film?
what do you do for animated movies? will we see a live action series of pokemon before the next pokemon movie?!
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