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Hey, Zune You! Friday, October 20, 2006

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 12:52 PM

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Microsoft Zune: Doesn't sound sweet to everyone
IDG News Service 10/18/06

Jeremy Kirk, IDG News Service, London Bureau


Microsoft's forthcoming digital music player, dubbed Zune, may make some Hebrew speakers gasp. The name for the device -- which will take on the Apple iPod when released later this year -- sounds like a vulgarity, specifically the "f" word, in Hebrew.

The tech industry continually creates goofy product names, exemplified by Yahoo and Google. But companies routinely hire branding consultancies to extensively research product names, including translations in other languages, says Steve Manning, managing director for Igor International in San Francisco, a branding agency. Nobody wants to make the mistake that Chevy did with its Nova automobile (No va, of course, made Spanish speakers think "no go.")

Hebrew linguists are divided over Zune. Tsila Ratner, the head of Hebrew courses in the Department of Hebrew and Jewish Studies at University College London, says Zune is an unsuitable name for a product. However, Haggit Inbar-Littas, a 30-year veteran Hebrew teacher with the London Jewish Cultural Center, says while the name is "ridiculous" and close to the bad word, it's unlikely to be mistaken.

Microsoft breaks the controversy down to pronunciation. "While we do acknowledge the similarity in pronunciation to Hebrew zi-yun, that is not the intended meaning of the name Zune," according to a Microsoft statement. Bloggers have picked up on the difference -- one humorously writing that if you say Zune to rhyme with iTunes, out pops the profanity.

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 01:15 PM

So soon people wouldn't have to use finger signs, they could use that instead.

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 01:32 PM

I like the way every new music device is touted as the next "ipod killer".

yeah. Right. AS IF yell.gif
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 05:57 PM

Meh, a while ago I may have given a damn, but I want to get a job at Microsoft sometime, thus I refuse to state an opinion.
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:11 PM

I hope something kills that stupid iPod. I want to hear about more than one product on the market. It's crappy and annoying enough with what competition there is.

In regards to this article, those Hebrew scholars need to grow the heck up. "Oh noes! You're saying a word in another language that's sorta like a bad word to us! We're all so offended that we're going to complain. Wah, wah, wah!" Imagine if everybody did that? We'd have to cut a whole lot of everybody's languages apart. pinch.gif
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 08:19 AM

QUOTE (Slade @ Oct 20 2006, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope something kills that stupid iPod. I want to hear about more than one product on the market. It's crappy and annoying enough with what competition there is.


I agree. Just hearing "ipod" puts me in fight mode. I've snapped at a number of Best Buy salesmen (and women) trying to sell me one. I'll stick to my only-14-songs-at-a-time-bulky-skipping-everybody-staring-at-me-cause-I'm-the-only-one-in-a-hundred-mile-radius-who-still-uses-a-cd-player CD Player.

Now I know how my gramma feels when she bitches cause nobody sells cassette tapes at the store any more.

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Posted 22 October 2006 - 05:10 PM

YES! CD Player users unite!

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Um...should we high-five or something? Or maybe go out and strangle people with their headphone cords?
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE (Despondent @ Oct 20 2006, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like the way every new music device is touted as the next "ipod killer".

yeah. Right. AS IF yell.gif


perhaps... but microsoft will zune the ipod.

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and lets not forget popular actor Roy Schieder whos surname is the german word for a popular female body part.
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 06:28 PM

I used to have a CD player, until it stopped working, and I realized that it would take up less space than one CD to have a MP3 player instead. I had a 12-second-skip (or whatever the term is) CD player, not bad, my friend had one that was one second. He basically moved it, and it stopped playing. CD players were cool, but even my nan has a MP3 player. Infact, I'm about to get a new one, one problem with iPod minis is that after a few years the battery life reduces from about 14 hours to 2 hours.

Anyway, iPod's are a fashion statement more than anything, when I got mine they weren't as fashionable as they are now, thus I am concerned about my status if I buy one. I might buy one of the others.
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 05:54 AM

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and lets not forget popular actor Roy Schieder whos surname is the german word for a popular female body part.

That would be Scheide, and frankly, quite hilarious. Better example: Johnny Depp a.k.a. Mr. Dumbass.

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 06:27 AM

What? Seriously, is that how it translates? huh.gif
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 06:43 AM

Seriously, that's how it translates. Well, kinda. I guess a mere "fool" would be more accurate. Or Icey.

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Gobbler @ Oct 23 2006, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That would be Scheide, and frankly, quite hilarious. Better example: Johnny Depp a.k.a. Mr. Dumbass.


same pronounciation
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 02:05 AM

Product names in other countries can be important if that's where a large market share is. For example, I know a few people who are apprehensious about the upcoming Nintendo wii, as it's prounced the same as wee. I mean, I don't want people thinking that I'm playing with my piss.
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 02:23 AM

Seconded. But I must say that I do love those people who openly admit that they're using the oh so famous "CLIT BANG!".

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