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the only difference is muggerism is an act of antisocial pricks who are too lazy to work and have no conscience about depriving people of their hard earned cash and often lives. they come from ALL walks of lives, they ARE NOT victims of society or brainwashed by videogames. they are just people who pop up.
Well then, if all muggers and criminals in general are evil and have no conscience (much like terrorists) why don't we get around to declaring a war on muggerism? Forget that there are societal and economic strains pushing them towards that behavior, forget that inncer city schools are more poorly funded than those in third world countries like Cuba. Let's go into the urban areas of the US and kill or imprison every miliatary aged black male we see to help stop the spread of muggerism.
But no, because we know that these people are human beings, that they're not part of some demonic shadow organization, and that they can be stopped by simple law enforcement. If you took the first action I hinted at all you'd have is a bit of a Robin Hood scenario.
And yes, I admit it. Stating that terrorism is a myth is absurd. But have I asked any of you to horde plastic wrap and duct tape and seal yourselves in your houses? Have I started a war that can, by definition, never end? Have I inflated the national debt so far that every human being in the world will have to pay several thousand dollars to pay it off? Have I put up a color coded threat level? Have I stated that the Geneva conventions are outdated because the people we're fighting aren't nice? Have I tapped any of your phones recently? Who's more absurd here when you really think about it?
{Edit for Civilian: Forgot to mention Freedom Fries in that list, thanks!}
The war on terror and all of the complete idiocy surrounding it is the greatest absurdity. We may as well have a war on war. And if the extreme paranoia, the insane hatred this has excited in some people (anyone remember the report about "prols" foaming at the mouth while they actually shot an effigy of Osama that had been strung up in their bar where they drank their Victory gin?) if all of that has led us nowhere and gained us nothing except a HUGE national deficit, it's time for an about face.
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Right. Theyd just be getting raped and thrown in wood chippers alive.
Wait til some angry Iraqi who lost his entire family to the occupation decides that it's time to bring Baghdad to Boston with a pound of C4. Then see how glad you are that we liberated their country from terrorism. Hear me when I say that the ill effects from this aggression have not even begun to be felt here, though 200000 Iraqis have already paid the price of Bush's hatred there. You think three or four thousand dead storm troopers is the worst of it? We fucked Iraq, and it won't be long before we reap what we've sewn.
The question is, at that point are we as a culture going to look at it as a vast and evil faceless enemy striking out at us, unprovoked and without reason as we did on 9/11 or are we going to realize that we made people angry enough at us that they'd sacrifice their lives to try to stop the rolling machine of American hedgemony? Will the next attack (and it will come) be the catalist for some inner thought and reconsideration of our "kill everyone who has a Quran" approach, or will it be an excuse to invade Iran? Ignoring the myth of terrorism is going to be a big step in the direction of doing the right thing.
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Because you’re the epitome of objectivity
Notice the presence of an O followed by an r in my statement.
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SO the war on terror is impossible. So the Al Qaeda are a fairy tale. Great, so where are we right now then? Do we just ignore these events?
Whats the solution. Cut ties from Israel, pull out of Iraq, and start making business moves with these countries so they'll be on our good side?
Jordan- Good question, very good question
We don't ignore these events when they occur. We look at them as crime. Certainly reprehensible crime, but look at it this way: more people die in the US every year from gun violence than from the 9/11 attacks and the Iraq war combined. But we don't have a war on guns, do we?
We start to look at these people as individual criminals and work with local governments to give them something else to do. In the US we have inner city initiatives and rebuilding projects, the same has to be done for the middle east, especially since we blew up a good bit of it. Give money to the governments there rather than doing it through the US. Development money, not money for guns and not CIA agents training them how to torture people.
Many terrorists learn their views in hardline islamic schools, much as many criminals become disenfranchised and violent in under funded inner city schools. Better, secular education is a key as well.
Now look at the Rodney King riots. What happened there? A huge shadowy organization created rampant destruction and terror, focusing their rage on the very people who were supposed to keep order? No, a lot of individuals got angry at oppression and decided to strike back. How do you stop something like that? You take down the oppressors, which is what the US government did after a while - the cops who beat the guy are in jail, and steps were taken to try to weed out racism and brutality in police ranks.
Let's do the same thing in the middle east. The US government knows that numerous middle eastern governments torture people and squash democracy. We can't overthrow them, but we can stop giving them guns and training. We can state our support for human rights and democracy in that country and encourage reformers. The US is indeed doing this, for instance in egypt. But they forgot one part. While Rice pays lip service to freedom we're still givign Egypt billions that it can use against it's own people.
If we examine the basic causes of people's anger we can stop some of these crimes. But not one of you has come up with a way that we can stop the massive worldwide evil organization of this alleged terrorism.
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