Lucas the Iconoclast Who did he ruin the most?
#31
Posted 10 November 2006 - 12:22 AM
either way i encourage you to see them.
In my opinion they are far
more superior to Eps. I and II.
I don't understand why more people haven't seen them.
Are they like crazy expensive?
cuz i got both volumes on dvd for around 15 bucks each.
i know they are sold on starwars.com
but i never bothered to see how much
Duct tape is like the force....
There's a lightside, a darkside
and it holds everything together
There are too many people in the world...We need another plague -Dwight K. Shrute [The Office]
#32
Posted 12 November 2006 - 06:03 PM
either way i encourage you to see them.
In my opinion they are far
more superior to Eps. I and II.
I don't understand why more people haven't seen them.
Are they like crazy expensive?
cuz i got both volumes on dvd for around 15 bucks each.
i know they are sold on starwars.com
but i never bothered to see how much
they're not so much crazy expensive as they aren't crazy cheap enough yet.
i'd pay $10AUD for them.
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#33
Posted 13 November 2006 - 04:26 AM
your gonna have to keep waiting
cuz i finally checked starwars.com
and its still asking for a pretty big penny.
Duct tape is like the force....
There's a lightside, a darkside
and it holds everything together
There are too many people in the world...We need another plague -Dwight K. Shrute [The Office]
#34
Posted 14 November 2006 - 01:41 AM
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#35
Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:58 AM
Of course then you won't get the higher quality picture and any extras that were included on the two volumes. So netflix it...
#36
Posted 16 November 2006 - 12:22 PM
And thats part of my point!
Did anyone read Star Wars on Trail, edited by Stover? In the section on femal characters [Charge: Women in Star Wars are portrayed as fundamentally weak.], Jeanne Cavelos defends the charge and Bill Spangler (tries to) refute it. Cavelos's premise: Women start out as hopeful role models, but then they don't do much in the end. Gangler's premise: Women are strong characters, and I feel good about women after seeing the movies.
Funny though, despite the obvious focus on the men, there is a huge fan base of women who love SW. Had the protagonists been women, SW would've been a chick flick, but would it have gained a large male following?
#37
Posted 16 November 2006 - 02:31 PM
I bet it would have. Star Wars would have had a large following if one of the characters was female and completely wasted a planet and Anakin loved her too. Fans of SW films might not have had to cringe through aweful "love" diologue between Anakin and his love interest if they were both Force users and completely unstable with such power. They would both be really dangerous together.
I could see Obi-wan always scolding Anaking for that kind of behavior, not flying ships dangerously close to openly exposed electrical conduits. Seriously, all they had to do was get some really cute and mean as Hell Maory (sp?) chick from New Zealand and have her as a padawan being trained by that blue Twi'lek that wore next to nothing in EP's II and III.
Being that Leia was a "princess" due to the Organa royal family and not because Amidala was elected queen, Anakin and some Hot and Violent Padawan Chick could have pulled this off with success.... but, George Lucas has proabably never dreamed of such an awesome relationship.
#38
Posted 16 November 2006 - 04:16 PM
I don't think strong female characters in the PT would turn off the guys. Bastila Shan, the female Jedi from Knights of the Old Republic, has most of the the male players raving over her - she's beautiful, strong, intelligent, flawed enough to be interesting, and she kicks ass. Basically, she's a female version of what Anakin should have been in the prequels. Honestly, the writing in that game makes Lucas's work look like a 'Learn to read' book for preschoolers ("See Artoo fly. Fly, Artoo, fly!")
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#39
Posted 16 November 2006 - 05:33 PM
well that saved me a bit of typing... KOTOR 2 has alot of strong female characters... but so did KOTOR 1. and it was done in such a way that it wasn't token or anything. i can't say enough good things about the first one though... that game is superior to anything lucas has ever been affiliated with in the SW world (excluding the OT of course).
Bastilla was hot. and after years of making fun of all the lara croft loving boys, my heart was broken by a VG character,,, (for not being real... but choose the darkside, trust me)
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#40
Posted 18 November 2006 - 01:32 AM
As for KotOR 2, (I finally got through it with patience) Handmaiden, Visas, Kreia, Mira, all of these characters: Female and friggin' awesome in their own right. Especially with Visas voiced by the ever so sexy Kelly Hu. Crap, I could see her as a Jedi or Sith as long as Lucas doesn't take the liberty of messing up what Dark Power should be, like we saw with Palpatine in EP III....
#41
Posted 18 November 2006 - 04:52 AM
I chose a short hair female as my character. And the story of KOTOR, with her at the helm was more entertaining than all three PT's combined. And thats not an exageration.
This post has been edited by Jordan: 18 November 2006 - 04:52 AM
#42
Posted 01 December 2006 - 05:27 PM
but Lucas essentially didn't make them cool.
And if he had done any serious work on the female characters
he just would've ruined them
Duct tape is like the force....
There's a lightside, a darkside
and it holds everything together
There are too many people in the world...We need another plague -Dwight K. Shrute [The Office]
#43
Posted 03 December 2006 - 01:26 PM
but Lucas essentially didn't make them cool.
And if he had done any serious work on the female characters
he just would've ruined them
Dear God, yes. I shudder to think what would have happened to KotOR if Lucas had got his grubby little hands on it (we'll probably see in the unlikely event that they ever decide to make a live-action version). I'm tempted to start a 'KotOR, Lucas-style' thread, just for fun...
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#44
Posted 03 December 2006 - 08:15 PM
Ha ha haaa! Do it! I'll spew out some absurd concepts that are Lucas approved!
#45
Posted 10 December 2006 - 07:07 PM
Vader. It showed us that Luke was wrong and that his father never deserved redemption. Anaking slaughtered children and nearly killed his pregnant wife. That's not a "tragic hero", that's just an a**hole.
So, I'm going with Darth Vader, followed closely by everyone else in the PT.