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They are not saying "ok, we are going to kill 5 civs for every terrorist, yay for us!"
- Jordan
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The numbers the men had suggested averaged 3.14 civilian deaths per dead terrorist
- Israeli death squad
You're right, they didn't say five, they said pi. My bad.
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Actually they rarely attack the IDF, look what he last attack on the military got them- they are cowards fighting a war they can't win
Yes, the last attack on the military caused Israel to butcher a thousand innocent people and destroy an entire nation's infrastructure. I can't imagine why the freedom fighters would choose softer targets. And exactly how do you define cowardice? No matter how much you dislike the freedom fighters you really aught to use proper terminology. Going to an Israeli checkpoint and detonating explosives strapped to you would probably take a lot of guts, as would using guerilla warfare to turn back and indeed defeat one of the greatest armies in the world.
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If you want Israel ousted, and you do, then you're also going to have to come to terms with the fact that if not for the states, they would be dead.
If not for the states Israel would have had to negotiate long ago and this thing wouldn't have been allowed to fester. Instead they got infinite backing and immunity from the UN.
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Jews have been persecuted before many times through out history by muslims.
Jews have been infinitely more abused by Christians, so statisticly it's likely better for Jews to live among Muslims than Christians. However, due to current events that statement is moot. A Jew living among Muslims today, who did not make every effort to further himself from this terrorist acftion, would be no different than a supporter of Nazi Germany living in England in 1940.
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Hamas don't kill the soldiers, they kill civillians, all the time with car bombs and what not. How can you avoid all the news?
Hamas itself has halted suicide bombings within Israel. You probably have them confused with PFLP or Islamic Jihad. In return for that gesture though Israel continued to assassinate and murder their leaders and is currently holding numerous Palestinian elected officials hostage. I truly do wish that Hamas had the power to strike back in kind and make these monsters pay for their crimes, but until they can shove a katyusha up Olmert's ass they can strike a blow wherever they like as far as I'm converned.
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They are not diplomats, they are religious freaks with kalshnikovs
And yet they are trying. They may not be good at it, but they continue to try all means to gain back the dignity Israel took from them. Until Israel is willing to let the refugees return, free the thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese it tortures and pay reperations for the terror and destruction they've wrought the only means for the Palestinians to maintain their dignity is through resistance.
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I'm not accusing you of actually meaning this, but you sound like you are just using the tragedy of the death of innocents for your cause, and you don't actually care - because from your perspective, it's okay for Israeli civilians to die.
The Palestinians have no choice as to whether to fight or not. They can either answer the call to resistance or they can sit down and quietely let their people and culture be destroyed. The Israelis however not only continue to assassinate the leaders of the Palestinian state they supposedly want to live in peace with, but their people continue to vote in killers such as Ariel Sharon, who was under investigation for massacres in Lebanon, and the Israeli government continues to lure people into Israel to help in their fiendish goals. They actually pay people to emigrate to Israel, trying to continue to populate the land with their Jewish master race and further push any remaining Arabs out. And all of those new immigrants become servants of the Israeli army, which every Israeli citizen serves in.
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They're pissed that Israel and Israelis exist, period. They want all Israelis, and other groups, too, off the face of the earth.
What exactly are you basing that off of? That because they're angry at Israel and its main occupants that they must clearly be anti-semites? No. Neo Nazis are anti-semites. They're trying to persecute a group of people who never did anything to them. Palestinians who call for the death of Israel are pissed because Israel likes to blow up their homes, water treatment plants, politicians, children, roads, electricity plants, and farm land. I don't think they blame Jews for that, but they certainly have every right to call for the death of Israel and the US since those are the two places that bring death to them. Does this make them biased against Christians or Jews? Well, if it does, the greater Christian and Jewish community has every responsibility to put a stop to the actions of members of their religions who are giving said religions a bad name. And if you intend to argue that freedom fighters want to kill everyone who isn't Muslim you need only look to Lebanon. The victorious freedom fighters of Hizballah are ALLIED with the main Christian group of that nation, whereas Israel butchers them just the same as all other Lebanese civilians.
Jordan- I think Lecter's point is that none of the leaders he mentioned had "Abu Al" or " Sheik" in their name, and that in fact many of the times Jews were persecuted Muslims found themselves on the rack right beside them. But don't let a silly thing like history get in the way of your arguments. Israel is at war with Muslims. Israel has ALWAYS been at war with Muslims.
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Having a mixed state of Jews and Palestinians is oil and water.
And there you have it, the very thoughts behind the Israeli genocide. All inferior races could only serve as pollutants, and we ubermensches cannot mingle with them except at the end of an M16.
It's a holy war dude, nothing else. Jews are thriving there and build everything you see. Prior to Israel, it was a dive with a scarce populace. Jews made it what it is today.
And a fine Zieg Heil to you too.
Inshort, Israel is trying to survive in a neighbourhood that wants them ousted. How would you feel if you're enemies lived all around you, and plotted and schemed to try kill you. Cut them some slack.
Maybe the neighborhood would have less of a problem with them if they hadn't robbed the house of their neighbors and were now focused on razing the houses of two of their neighbors to the ground. But then again it dosn't matter how many buildings or women and children they blow up, because they built it all anyhow, right?