[Darth Player]

Something occurred to me today regarding the PT that has been talked about in various indirect ways, but as far as I know, not quite directly. Throughout the whole of the PT, and leading up to the events of ROTS, the Jedi exhibit no real special powers than we see Luke and Vader use in the OT when they confront one another. Luke learns to levitate objects as Vader does to hurtle at him in the control room in Cloud City, so there was a counterbalance of abilities there. Yet, the levitation is used as a cheap pick up device by Anakin to get a piece of Padme in ATOC. The Jedi can jump, but rarely do so, and rarely for good defensive or offensive reasons. Count Dooku does to get closer to the fight with his flip, whereas a long walk down the staircase with a good deal of dialogue along the lines of 'ever since we last parted company, I've been looking forward to the day when we would all meet up again and harnessing my abilities to cut you both down in no time flat, no mercy this time...." or words to that effect. The elevator gives out, and you'd think two Jedi could use the Force to jump the distance up or down with little problem, as they're at one with the surroundings around them and can manipulate the physical world to suit their situation. Instead, they're reliant on the elevator, and only use the Force to push one battle droid into a few others for visual effect more than strategic necessity. No demonstration of Jedi abilities other than the established powers they have in the OT either. The Sith have little edge over the Jedi, with the exception of Palpatine's Dark Side lightening strikes at very specific and brief intervals. Maul/Dooku/and Vader have surprise on their side initially, but after that, little else. Vader wastes his on slaughtering the 'younglings' of all things. Even Yoda as a Master just has the ability to repel the Dark Sith Lightening strike albeit briefly and at a physicl toll on him. Telepathy is shown as a tool but hardly used, or to a fighting advantage. In all, the Jedi are just a group who may spend a better deal of their time negotiating and fighting with lightsabers using some acrobatics, maybe levitate a thing her eor there, but little else. No real draw in their uniqueness, and another wasted opportunity that was built up after ROTJ ended and the speculation began. It all seems so ordinary overall.

[MyPantsAreOnFire]

Butt twirling teh lazer swords is so c0000000000000l!!1!!11111!!!!

[Despondent]

Is Lord Annikan the only one who can read minds? How often do we see him demonstrate this? Twice?
Why can't he read Palpatine's mind and realize he's being played?

Because he was force-blinded when he didn't look back.

This post has been edited by Despondent: 09 August 2006 - 11:31 PM

[miladyblue]

Why can't he read Palpatine's mind and realize he's being played?

EXCELLENT question, Despondent. Of course, the most arguably powerful of all Jedi, Yoda could not even sense who or what Palpatine was, so how can we expect someone as stupid as Anakin to figure it out?

Of course, I can't wrap my head around the idea that the muppet/CGI atrocity running amok in the PT was Yoda.

Yoda was established as very wise in ESB - surely, he could not have been as stupid as he was during the entirety of the PT, had an epiphany of some sort at the very end of RotS, and become as wise as he was in ESB. You can't even have that happen in a D&D game!

[StarWarsIsUs]

Maybe it against the Jedi code to go reading people's minds without permission. It is kind of intrusive, you know.

StarWarsIsUs truly is a genius. He has answers to all the questions, it seems. He is right... Yoda doesn't read people's minds without permission to do so. I doubt he walked up to Palpatine and said "Hey, Can I read your mind?" No. He knew Palpatine wouldn't go for it.

- GEORGE LUCAS

This post has been edited by StarWarsIsUs: 11 August 2006 - 01:05 AM