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Posted 08 June 2006 - 11:56 AM

This is a video that scares me. Anyone that found Fahrenheit 9/11 offensive, probably doesn't want to see this. Well, I don't want to go on about it, if you want to watch it and talk about it here's the link.

http://video.google....088001333580937
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Posted 08 June 2006 - 07:00 PM

Watching the video convinces me that this is an indirect form of dictatorship written in a book that is kept hidden away, not so entirely free. Maybe for a couple of people it might be. I think a bank maybe good if it is involved in politics with the clients it is dealing with. I mean the politics on the client’s side. So it seems someone could be accused of money laundering but not the government.

Like for the person who accessed information from the military computers due to what he claims as weak security, they want to send him to Guantanamo bay which I see has nothing to do with his crime. It was partially their fault for not securing security for that to happen. Refusing to say that they are imperfect and if anybody proves them wrong they should be non existent. These shows know it all type behaviour.

For the case of the intruders at Buckingham Palace: Okay they put up electric fences but did they assume that all intruders are terrorists and should be sent to remote prison camps designated for people who plot and kill? This man did not kill anybody compared to the common hit and run people.

I know that some commercial businesses do insert microchips that operate on frequencies into products for marketing. They started of without telling people at first. This could be a form of terrorism on aggressive marketing and surveillance on people. It could leave them vulnerable to all kinds of terrorists.


Another thing I read somewhere else is that there are recent laws prohibiting spyware programs and viruses made by the FBI to be listed on removal database of Anti virus and anti spyware software. It proves the point of phone tapping and invasion to privacy. It is not freedom for privacy and undermines people when they make those false claims.

Commercialism could be an excuse to make it easier to watch people. The government can share advertising information this way to companies to help marketing profits in unforeseen ways or the other way round. When it is questions there are always small information they use to sub zero the rule or promise as I see.

I have another issue I’ll start of about privatisation of other services.
To me, they like people to think they know it, in control of everything, if it is not, we’ll use uncivilised ways to keep it that way and keep it non existent to protect our weaknesses from being exposed. “Covering over the carpet.”

Like when I was talking about China and the secrets. The English man that is being sent to be tried for gaining access to military information as further above:

(1) Can they prove what damages he caused and how they were caused?

(2) Are they exaggerating to prove a point of sending him to Guantanamo Bay and even trying to claim insurance or more money from the people?

(3) If they can’t prove how $700,000 worth of damage was caused in court with solid evidence but use the Terrorist procedures that are ignorant in this case, that is like the case in China for the man serving a ten years jail sentence and two years without respectable rights. The man was only talking about what was happening and nothing about terrorism. Yet they classed that as a breach of the country’s security. They did not have to prove or confirm whether it was a breach of the security because it is a secret and maybe in this case with the evidence in court.

(4) This is an exploit of the terrorist laws to transport people to be tried as a terrorist who committed petty crimes that is partially the fault of the defence side.

(5) If someone foreign person broke into my house and I was holding illegal material there, I’d get arrested but I can’t call them a terrorist if they are about to murder me despite on putting faulty locks on.

(6) As demonstrated, the policies seem more important than people. Even if a person did not commit terrorism or had no intention with supported evidence, the prosecutor will then follow someone else’s book to prove that the accused is a terrorist.

(7) It seems that winning court cases depends on how good the lawyer is at proving the innocence, followed by this it appears to win a case is about how much money a person is willing to spend or their ability to pay and not so much about finding to the truth. I know it is successful for some cases I have seen but I cannot see it as good for where this is going.

(8) Treating people that they are just not important by classing them as terrorists for petty issues and keeping secrets that involves mass scale terrorism can very well be hypocritical and fascist.

(9) It seems to me that they pick out the “rotten eggs” from the basket to rule, it cannot be free in that case, could be too many people and wire tapping people. That government looks like it is trying to make itself look invincible. “Guilty until proven innocent.” Actually we are always right.

(10) Also commonly I see that they profit on people’s suffering. How do people with higher jobs get free social benefits including free health care or even discounted schooling?


This is only what I observe, interested to hear how these points compare to yours.
Correct me with your details on what you see.
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Posted 10 June 2006 - 12:32 AM

So I'm guessing you believe in pure capatalism?..?
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Posted 10 June 2006 - 05:56 AM

Nope, I prefer Bartering.
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Posted 10 June 2006 - 06:01 AM

Another interview with Aaron Russo:

http://video.google....488777215293198
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