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Nipponese National Nthem Nobbled! Monday, May 29, 2006

#1 User is offline   Chyld Icon

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 09:33 AM

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Parody of Japan anthem spreading as protest
Mon May 29, 2006 6:21 AM BST

TOKYO (Reuters) - An English parody of Japan's national anthem with the title "Kiss Me" is spreading on the Internet, the latest protest over forcing teachers to sing the song at school ceremonies.

Japan's "Kimigayo" anthem, based on an ancient poem praising the emperor, has been seen by critics at home and elsewhere in Asia as a symbol of Japan's past militarism.

It was only legally made the national anthem in 1999.

The United States recently had its own furore over its national anthem when the release of a Spanish-language version sparked outrage among conservatives there.

Several hundred Japanese teachers have been punished for refusing to sing "Kimigayo" since the Tokyo Metropolitan government issued a directive in 2003 instructing high school teachers to stand and sing the anthem at school ceremonies.

The parody of "Kimigayo" making the rounds on the Internet offers one solution by providing English lyrics that sound enough like the Japanese original that casual listeners could not tell the difference.

Kimigayo, set to a melancholy 19th century melody, begins with "Thousands of years of happy reign be thine."

The parody starts with "Kiss me, girl, and your old one."

The conservative daily Sankei Shimbun, which carried a report on the parody on its front page on Monday, said the song was an attempt to "sabotage" the national anthem.

A Web site presenting the parody, the origins of which were unclear, said the song was for people forced into circumstances where they had to sing the anthem despite personal opposition.

"We hope that this parody will become a small pillar of opposition in peoples' hearts," the site added.

http://today.reuters...HEM.XML&src=rss


Thanks to Dr Lecter for this one

I'm guessing its going to be stuck on eBaumsworld with a stupid video and a watermark in... ooh... shall we say ten minutes now?

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 11:00 AM

I cannot see why a song must be so important that those who refuse to sing it get punished. Just searching as I don't know how they punish people there.

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 01:41 PM

They make them eat tapeworms and maggots or fight in gladiatorial combat, but only on tuesdays.

Man I really dig a country so devoted to pacifism as Japan. They're like the only nation on earth that fucked up so bad that they decided never to mess with anyone again. Germany got their asses kicked twice, and France gets PWNed like every other century. Why havnt they figured out that Japan's example might be a good thing to follow...

Though maybe not singing a national anthem is a bad idea...

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 01:49 PM

To the joke why Tuesdays?

Unfortuately I cannot find much on punishments there apart from capital punishment which I thought ended. Unless it is still going on but in secret.
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Posted 29 May 2006 - 04:24 PM

Next on the DS report: Could Japan be carrying out secret executions on those who refuse to sing the national anthem?

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 04:34 PM

I did not say that, I said unless.

If you are going to vandalize my statements leave me alone.

I am sure that countries may have their own secrets. I heard that Japan has more human rights compared to China.

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE (J m HofMarN @ May 29 2006, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They make them eat tapeworms and maggots or fight in gladiatorial combat, but only on tuesdays.

Man I really dig a country so devoted to pacifism as Japan. They're like the only nation on earth that fucked up so bad that they decided never to mess with anyone again. Germany got their asses kicked twice, and France gets PWNed like every other century. Why havnt they figured out that Japan's example might be a good thing to follow...

Though maybe not singing a national anthem is a bad idea...



Wait, didn't we take away their military?

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 08:04 PM

No, it was you. They just have a defence force now, or something. We had to send troops over to Iraq to help out their doctors and other aid workers, as you guys wouldn't let them look after themselves.

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 08:19 PM

people and their flags and songs... oh dear.
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Posted 29 May 2006 - 08:20 PM

DS- in all seriousness that's pretty true. Japan is a much more western style nation as far as government and civil rights go. I don't know about the death penalty but I imagine they'd have it, especially for cultural reasons.

Otal- The Allies pretty much told them to write into their constitution that they wouldn't have a military in the traditional sense. They have what is called the JDF Japanese Defense Force, as you may have seen in Anime such as Patlabor. There have been attempts to ammend this though which is why Japan sending people to Iraq caused such a furor. The majority of the Japanese public hate militarism for good reason. Their country, from 1900 to 1947, was in a state of almost constant war with China, Korea and Russia and later America and Australia. When they finally lost they had to endure occupation and the atomic bombs, so if the anthem actually does involve militarism you can see why it's a big turn off.

Sime- Not entirely true. Their troops, I think, were armed. And honestly, if it meant getting more people to join his kill-olition of the willing Bush would use the Japanese constitution for toilet paper. It was more to do with the public and lawmakers of Japan then with Bush, though on the opposite side I'm sure their decision to send troops out of country for the first time since ww2 had a lot to do with Koizumi having a look inside Bush's wallet.

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Posted 30 May 2006 - 06:30 PM

either way... i wouldn't be singing the national anthem of a nation that failed to notice a divorced dad dead in his apartment for over 20 years...
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 06:58 PM

I have never sung the British national anthem, I would refuse to if I had to because I don't believe in the monarchy. I don't really see the big deal anyhow, nationalism is overated. What do you get out of nationalism? Jack shit. What does the government get out of it? Lambs that prepare themselves for the slaughter.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 09:05 PM

People... lets no confuse Nationalism with Patriotism... National Athyms are ment to make people feel inspired about ones country. There is no doubt in my mind that Japan will never be what it was in 1903 to 1945, Nationalism is an amazing tool, but the Nationalism in Japan is well past its prime.

And even if Japan becomes like its Militaristic Past Goverment, it will be crushed before it could say anything, one may reason for this is Japan does not have an official army.
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Posted 01 June 2006 - 04:37 AM

I always saw Nationalism about a nation, and Patriotic about an ideal that the nation should or has been be formed on. Therefore, I am not nationalism, but I am patriotic about the ideal of human rights, freedom of speech, etc.

I don't get America, most of them keep going on about how free their country is, but most of Europe enjoys much more freedom than any state in the US. The government pretty much controls the American media, infact, the government is attacked so much here in Britain by the media, that they want to pass a law to control journalists. How can freedom of speech be free, along as you don't question the government. I don't want to mention what civilisations in history would fall into this same category, since most of you already know what I am going to say.

Of course, thats just one example, there are many more that should go without saying.
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (Dr Lecter @ Jun 1 2006, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always saw Nationalism about a nation, and Patriotic about an ideal that the nation should or has been be formed on. Therefore, I am not nationalism, but I am patriotic about the ideal of human rights, freedom of speech, etc.

I don't get America, most of them keep going on about how free their country is, but most of Europe enjoys much more freedom than any state in the US. The government pretty much controls the American media, infact, the government is attacked so much here in Britain by the media, that they want to pass a law to control journalists. How can freedom of speech be free, along as you don't question the government. I don't want to mention what civilisations in history would fall into this same category, since most of you already know what I am going to say.

Of course, thats just one example, there are many more that should go without saying.


The United States is the cesspool of the world, relying on imagrants from 'poorer' and more 'under-developed' countries. Its propaganda lives today as a nation founded on freedom and equal chance, not necessarily the case considering the founding fathers were all slave owners. Over the decades this dream of freedom and equal chance has manifested itself to become more and more corrupting, 'equal human rights' gets added within these ideas and for someone who suffered Religos or Ethnic prosecution in thier home nation, its seems like a nation to good to be true... and it is.

And before anyone gets upset about me flaming the US, Australia isnt much better.
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