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Suggested changes to the OT For the next Special Editions...

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 08:22 AM

Sounds about right. wink.gif
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Posted 19 May 2006 - 08:32 AM

ok i get it, your cynical and sarcastic.... devil.gif
It seems like everyone is over the nitpicking. Too bad.
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Posted 21 May 2006 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 19 2006, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The sad thing is that Luke actually did whine more than Anakin.

"No, that's not true, that's IMPOSSIBLE!"

"Nooooooooooooooooo! Noooooooooo!"

"I don't even know what we're doing here, we're wasting our time!"

"But I want to go to the Tashi station to pick up some power converters!"

"You ask the impossible!" (sits down and pouts)


i beg to differ...

i'd put all his quotes down, but then it would just be the scripts for 2 and 3 with everyone elses dialogue removed...
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luke gripped and moaned when shit wasn't going his way... that stuff up there is moaning, pouting, and annoyance.

anakin would actually whine about his own actions:

"what have a done"
"i shouldn't have done that"
"i killed them all"
"i don't like sand"
"but i need him"
"i hate you"
"where's padme"
"Noooooooooooooooooo"
"don't say that master"
"i should be a jedi master, this is an outrage"
"mom"
"oh mom"
"ohhh ohhh mom"
"obi wans holding me back"
"I should be more powerful"
"i should be the most powerfull jedi in the galaxy"
"we have to go back for her"

jesus even when he said "i submit myself to you" it was pretty whiney...
"nooooooooooooooo" was anakin BTW.
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 12:59 AM

QUOTE (barend @ May 21 2006, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"nooooooooooooooo" was anakin BTW.

And Anikan's on those OT slipcovers. Thanks for helping preserve OT Vader. sorcerer.gif
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 01:24 AM

Actually, when Vader reveals that he is Luke's father in ESB, Luke screams "Noooooooooooooo! Noooooooo!". I find it funny how people say it is acceptable for Luke to scream "Noooooo!" like a little crybaby in ESB, but "Vader screaming 'Nooooooooo!' is the worst moment in Star Wars history." They are BOTH absolutely terrible moments in Star Wars history! But then again, if any grown adult watched any of those movies for the first time they would probably find all six to be horrible. The only reason we think any of these Star Wars movies as good is because we grew up as kids watching them and therefore they have that nostalgic value.
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 01:27 AM

Not true. While I have to concur that I always thought that Luke was an annoying crybaby at times. Hoth, Dagobah, Bespin - he always ended up making that stupid grimace... but I think it was more believable than what Anakin put to show.

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 01:51 AM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 22 2006, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, when Vader reveals that he is Luke's father in ESB, Luke screams "Noooooooooooooo! Noooooooo!". I find it funny how people say it is acceptable for Luke to scream "Noooooo!" like a little crybaby in ESB, but "Vader screaming 'Nooooooooo!' is the worst moment in Star Wars history." They are BOTH absolutely terrible moments in Star Wars history! But then again, if any grown adult watched any of those movies for the first time they would probably find all six to be horrible. The only reason we think any of these Star Wars movies as good is because we grew up as kids watching them and therefore they have that nostalgic value.


okay, nostalgic? no.

luke says: "no." (admitedly with a contorted face that is a tad distracting)
anakin says "nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" with a stupid stance rocking around like a gay frankenstein in a costume meant for 7 foot tall bodybuilder.

it's not me using a double standard, it's you using a half-standard.
(that should be in someone's signature)

i mean, you think it's sad that we supposedly put SW on a pedastool, that the PT can never reach, but it's you who tries to drag the OT down to justify your love of crap. i'm not some obsessed geek, who holds SW sacred for any weird reason... i saw a few films as a kid and they had things that no other story had at the time in film. It's scale was huge... unlike the yoda knows chewbacca telephone booth that is the star wars galaxy you've grown accustomed too...

SW was just this awsome little trilogy that every group and subcultural faction enjoyed... it brought jocks and nerds together, but like later Star treck series, all the EU and comics and PT and SE turned into to geekky bullshit...

and now no one will touch it outside the nerd realms...

and your angle perpetuates that...

thanks.
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 07:12 AM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 22 2006, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, when Vader reveals that he is Luke's father in ESB, Luke screams "Noooooooooooooo! Noooooooo!". I find it funny how people say it is acceptable for Luke to scream "Noooooo!" like a little crybaby in ESB, but "Vader screaming 'Nooooooooo!' is the worst moment in Star Wars history." They are BOTH absolutely terrible moments in Star Wars history! But then again, if any grown adult watched any of those movies for the first time they would probably find all six to be horrible. The only reason we think any of these Star Wars movies as good is because we grew up as kids watching them and therefore they have that nostalgic value.


I'm totally biased on this, since I saw the OT when I was a kit, but I can relate to Luke, I understand is actions and would very much take the same decisions.

I cannot say that for Anakin, I don't understand his motivations nor his actions, or what his thinking. his either talking badly about ObiWan, either saying is like a father, either killing kids for his wife based on some vague promises, the next minute is almost killing her, in the next is asking about her, WTF?? sick.gif

At least the OT had some flow in the story, The PT is a mess of character development, as if the writter was more interested on what could be done with CGI than in the story, oh wait, he was!
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 08:27 AM

Well, I watched the OT films as an adult (or nearly an adult) and I didn't think they were horrible. I didn't think they were as great as they're often made out to be, either, but I found them entertaining and a hell of a lot better than the PT. Luke was whiny at first, but he got better, whereas Anakin got worse (and turned into a psychotic sociopath to boot). As for the 'NOOOOOOOO' thing, you have to remember that it's because of films like ESB that it's become such a terrible cliché; it wasn't nearly as unacceptable back then as it is now.

Anyway, could we maybe get back on topic now?

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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 07:49 PM

storm's the one who keeps interjecting with his alterior-gushery-counterbashing

but yes, let's...

after i quickly say this

QUOTE (Gerhard @ May 22 2006, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm totally biased on this, since I saw the OT when I was a kit,


and now that you're fully assembled?
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (barend @ May 23 2006, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after i quickly say this
and now that you're fully assembled?


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Posted 23 May 2006 - 03:16 AM

Back on topic, there are loads of little things to fix...

ANH
OBI-WAN: Mos Eisley spaceport: You will never find a more wretched hive of horrible CGI and annoying slapstick. We must be cautious.

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ANH
LUKE: I don't understand how we got by those troops. I thought we were dead.
OBI-WAN: The Force can have a strong influence on people with low midichlorian counts.
LUKE: Huh?

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ANH
DARTH VADER: I find your lack of midichlorians disturbing.

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ROTJ
LUKE: Why didn't you tell me? You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.
OBI-WAN: Your father... was a sociopathic asshat who for no reason at all turned to the Dark Side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the whiny brat who was your father was destroyed. So what I told you was true... from a certain point of view.
LUKE: A certain point of view?
OBI-WAN: Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to...
[sits down]
OBI-WAN: depend greatly on the whims of George Lucas. Anakin was a, was a, hmmm... [trails off]
[Luke sits next to Obi-Wan]
OBI-WAN: When I first knew him, your father was just an annoying little kid. But I was amazed how high his midichlorian count was. I made a promise to my own Master, Qui-Gon Jinn...
LUKE: Who?! I thought Yoda was your...
OBI-WAN: Don't interrupt! Anyway I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi. I thought that I could instruct him just as well as Yoda, uh I mean Qui-Gon. I was wrong.

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 11:22 AM

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LUKE: I don't understand how we got by those troops. I thought we were dead.
OBI-WAN: The Force can have a strong influence on people with low midichlorian counts.
LUKE: Huh?



Lol HK47 =)

Actually you can insert "midichlorians" everywhere in the OT instead of the force.
My absolute favorite would be at the end of ANH just before Obi-Wan tells Luke to use the Force to make that difficult shot.

ANH:

Obi-Wan: "Use your midichlorians Luke. Luke trust me"

Or the Obi-Wan - Vader duel:

Vader: "Your midichlorians are weak old man"
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 12:49 PM

ESB

Luke: "........I don't believe it".

Yoda: "That is why you fail, ---to understand that nothing this is to lift a simple X-Wing. My exhaustion, an act, it is. Yoda able to throw senate pods and stop crushing wreckage while doing impossible black flips and deflecting Sith lightning bolts. Yoda commanded backstabbing clone armys standing on the edge of an open flying transport while in battle against both mighty winds and many explosions.
Lifting a X-wing 10 feet, -believe you should."

Luke: " ....What's a Sith?"

Yoda: " Shut up! Now pick me up and carry me home on your back. I'm pooped."
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 10:38 PM

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