[Jedi_1138]

Ok, first of all...I have to point out that I liked the FIRST TWENTY MINUTES of RotS. It's not that I think that it is a good Star Wars movie.
And about melting pits...yeah, I remember something from an earlier draft too. (Or a novelisation (sp?)maybe.)
Seems like the Flanelled One changed his mind. Again. So much for "I had the whole backstory in mind when I shot Star Wars in '77".

Oh, and about bashing the first Star Trek movie. I don't think it's hard. I mean, a lot of people bashed that movie and you really had to be a hard core fan to enjoy it. Just like your average gusher, you know.
But its a perfect example of what happens when you change the majority of a movie from story to effects. You'll create a rather boring movie.

(In defence of Captain James Tiberius Kirk: I am not sure if this was intended. Unlike some other movie I could name...)

[Sieve Boy]

I watched ROTS yesterday and after having watched it at least 50 times beforehand, agree that it was a horrible movie. I mean really, when I first saw it and then watched it all those times on DVD I thought it was absolutely marvelous. After I watched it the other night in an effort to study and comprehend it, well... I find it to be an absolute blasphemy upon the OT.

My main problems is with Anakin, the entire PT was to be dedicated to telling the story of Anakin and his becoming Darth Vader. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!! Lets say that the PT was created before the OT and I was to watch it in that line, I would have zero respect for Darth Vader in the OT as Anakin in the PT truly was nothing worth one movie let alone three. Best case scenario, GL ONLY shows Anakin after he succumbs to the dark side. Anything previous to that is simply filler room in a story that defies logic and anyone with half a brain truly cannot make sense of it.

ROTS just plain did not make sense in any way shape or form. So the "Sith" are the sworn enemy of the Jedi, correct? In AOTC you get the feeling that Anakin would do anything to defeat and kill Dooku, yet in ROTS he hesitates and questions eliminating him. He has to be told to do so by Palpatine, THEN when he discovers that Palpatine is the Sith Lord he hesitates and questions eliminating him as well even though if is felt that he knows he should.

Here is the point that I cannot begin to understand... when Mace has Palpatine on the ground and Anakin shows up, Anakin starts blathering about how Mace shouldn't kill the Sith Lord because it is against the Jedi way. HOLD THE F*** UP!!! Now Anakin does know that Palpatine is the Sith Lord and that the Sith are the mortal enemy of the Jedi as he did everything to defeat a Sith in AOTC and was nearly killed by a Sith in TPM. A Sith does not stand trial, a Sith is outright eliminated by a Jedi if the opportunity presents itself. If Anakin is so for following the code, why does he so stringently defend Palpatine/Sidious regardless of the "secret of life?" GL BULLSHIT, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever and is blatant contradiction of the character line...

I hope GL ROTS in hell

[miladyblue]

I think the reason RotS is considered the best of the PT is the suck factor. This one could only vacuum one room of a large house, as compared to TPM, which could vacuum about half of said house, and AotC could clean several large houses. If GL were to put out "The Adventures of Jar Jar Binks," he could take over the cleaning industry.

Seriously, though, of the PT, this one has an almost coherent plot, the acting is just a shade less stiff and the performers look a tad less uncomfortable. While the first 20 minutes "feels like a Star Wars movie" to some, that is about all there is to recommend it.

I was more amused by "Tart Vader" which is what I called this rather scantily clad girl who had the attention of every male in the theater on opening night, including my brothers.

[CowboyCurtis]

My friend did me a [dis]favor and gave me a copy of ROTS. I could see the gleam in his eye that he was really sticking it to me. I told him I hoped he didn't pay full price for it. Thankfully, it was in a bargain bin---HAHAHA!!!

Okay, I watched it again. This is my third attempt to watch it, and I have to say it got a little better this time around. The opening battle is a little better. There are still some things that really bug me about it, but it was better, and I got to look at some of the details of the shots. Some of them are well constructed. Others are really a mess. I think we could pull these apart and figure who are the better CGI animators! Greivous is a little less grating on me. I really wish he wasn't "Jedi trained" (Groan!). I wish this movie made a little more sense. There is so much throwaway crap in this film. Lucas really had no direction. Seriously. Wookie planet is pointless. Utapau is pointless. The fight with Greivous is pointless. The whole 'landing pad' thing in the pit was a complete mess. Gawd, it bothers me.

But here and there are some really nice visual shots that really took my breath away. When Grevious' ship plummets to Coruscant and that trail of smoke is behind it, is really a nice visual. I think that was the precept to the plummeting plane in Superman Returns.

I'm NOT gushing!! I still hate this movie because it defies (almost) everything in the OOT.

If GL were to put out "The Adventures of Jar Jar Binks," he could take over the cleaning industry.

LOL!! I'd buy that in a heartbeat just to pay back my friend for his infraction.

This post has been edited by CowboyCurtis: 24 July 2006 - 11:19 PM

[diligent_d]

^ Gusher.



I kid, I kid.

[Azrael23]

I watched ROTS yesterday and after having watched it at least 50 times beforehand, agree that it was a horrible movie. I mean really, when I first saw it and then watched it all those times on DVD I thought it was absolutely marvelous. After I watched it the other night in an effort to study and comprehend it, well... I find it to be an absolute blasphemy upon the OT.

Thats exactly how I felt about ROTS, I mean its good eye candy and it has alot more action
than the previous two films had. Alot of deluted fanboys automatically thought that just
because this film had more action, Lucas was redeemed, but that was far from the case,
because at a point were the audience is suppose to care for the characters, they simply don't because they have zero depth and are for the main part very boring.

My main problems is with Anakin, the entire PT was to be dedicated to telling the story of Anakin and his becoming Darth Vader. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!! Lets say that the PT was created before the OT and I was to watch it in that line, I would have zero respect for Darth Vader in the OT as Anakin in the PT truly was nothing worth one movie let alone three. Best case scenario, GL ONLY shows Anakin after he succumbs to the dark side.

I find it strange that Lucas would make the entire Saga soley about Anakin, I mean he would
like people to think it was his story and while the PT makes it clear that it was Anakin's story
that is not the case regarding the OT, Vader is seen as a pretty straight forward villian, there
is no conflict within him. Lucas claims that the OT is suppose to be about Anakin's redemption
but he isn't redeemed until the final moments of ROTJ.

ROTS just plain did not make sense in any way shape or form. So the "Sith" are the sworn enemy of the Jedi, correct? In AOTC you get the feeling that Anakin would do anything to defeat and kill Dooku, yet in ROTS he hesitates and questions eliminating him. He has to be told to do so by Palpatine, THEN when he discovers that Palpatine is the Sith Lord he hesitates and questions eliminating him as well even though if is felt that he knows he should.

It was strange that Anakin was hesitant to kill Dooku, he did have a motive and it would have
been a great way to show is fall by the fact he wanted revenge and was out for blood. I just
find it strange that he is hesitant on the people he should kill but doesn't flinch with the
people he has no reason to kill at all.

Lucas did a fine job in showing us how much of a hyprocrite Anakin was. Anakin always
comments on what is and what's not the Jedi way, yet he goes on random killing sprees
gets married and lives an entire lie, so its not as if he is the ideal Jedi. He feels that
Palpatine should stand trial despite the fact that he beheaded Dooku without trial.
Palpatine was afterall behind all the events in the prequels.

Many things in ROTS made no sense and everything was rushed. Lucas had
to force things that didn't fit and now there are many inconsistencies.

This post has been edited by Azrael23: 25 July 2006 - 11:26 AM

[CowboyCurtis]

^ Gusher.
I kid, I kid.

LOL!!!!