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V for Vendetta Do Graphic Novels count as books? Meh

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 06:34 PM

This topic refers to the original graphic novel book NOT the crappy book written about the film.

I just got this book today, and I already believe that this novel is much better than the film. The film itself was one of the best films I can remember seeing, so this novel is almost certainly one of the best I've seen.

Its odd for me to prefer the original to the film version, seeing as I thought that the film versions of Lord of the Rings were better than the books, but in this case I must side with the originals. Discuss please.
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 01:25 AM

"Graphic Novel" is just the gentlemen's term for comic book
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 03:02 AM

I read a few pages in the Waterstones a few months ago. What stroke me is that V is more a terrorist dude in the graphic novel than in the movie. But I can't judge really between the novel and the movie, because I haven't read it all.
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 04:00 AM

I am a gettleman... as you please. Evey is completely different in the graphic novel. She's the kind of girl you feel sorry for, but in the film I didn't feel sorry for her at all.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 11:35 AM

I just got to the end, and I'm quite pleased with the ending, it doesn't give too much conclusion, so it gives the ending that the future is what you make of it, rather than already being written.
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Posted 23 June 2006 - 05:50 PM

I think the movie was one of the best (if not the best) movies I have ever seen. I am very much wanting to read the Graphic Novel but i have been unable so far to find it anywhere. dry.gif
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 02:44 AM

I thought the movie was an admirable attempt at getting people to think amidst all of their popcorn and whiz-bang-booming, but it falls so ridicuously short of the book. I prefer how the book was far more ambiguous about who was right and who was wrong, if anyone. The film wanted V to be a "good guy" so very badly. The book felt much more human.
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Posted 24 June 2006 - 01:46 PM

I got the same idea after reading the graphic novel. The film is really watered down, the message is completely different and V is seen more as a Che Guevara type revolutionary rather than the full blooded anarchist he is the book. I mean, I understand that if they made a film totally based on the book, although it would have the storyline, it wouldn't have enough action sequences to statisfy hard-core action fans.

The film is more inspired by the book, than based on the book.

I think Alan Moore (the man behind V for Vendetta if you didn't know) explains it best of all:

QUOTE (Alan Moore)
It seemed to me the two more absolute extremes were anarchy and fascism. This was one of the things I objected to in the recent film, where it seems to be, from the script that I read, sort of recasting it as current American neo-conservatism vs. current American liberalism. There wasn't a mention of anarchy as far as I could see. The fascism had been completely defanged. I mean, I think that any references to racial purity had been excised, whereas actually, fascists are quite big on racial purity.


Source: http://www.comicon.c...moore.html#more

I didn't want to quote the whole thing, but basically he goes on to talk about how he hated the film so badly that he only allowed them to make it on the condition that they didn't put his name in the credits. But they did anyway.

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Posted 25 June 2006 - 05:21 PM

Well when i see a movie based/inspired by a book i ussually like it a lot, until i read the book then i hate the movie angry.gif , like when i saw the Hitchiker's gttg movie i loved it untill i read the series, then i was desgusted by how much they changed, AND by how much they ADDED! OMFG! Now i see why they waited till AFTER Douglas died to make it!
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 12:24 PM

I read the trade paperback* before I saw the movie, and I found the book was much better. And not just because I'm a jerk who would say that sort of thing anyway, but because the book really was more ambiguous, "gritty", etc. If you look at the movie, Evey is both more innocent (as she isn't trying to prostitute herself out the first time we see her) and stronger (I haven't read the TPB in a while, but Evey comes off as rather passive for quite a while). A career criminal who takes Evey in and sleeps with her, is replaced with her former boss, who is both gay and secretly against the government. A bunch of stuff goes missing, that makes the movie more black-and-white, and really rather more gentle, in a way.


*Isn't trade paperback the term for a collection of comics, and a graphic novel is something that was originally published all together? For example, V for Vendetta, the issues originally being published separately, is a trade paperback, whereas something like Maus (by Art Spiegelman), originally published in that format (actually, there are two volumes) is a graphic novel. Or at least that's how I understand it.
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