[Prequel dialogue coach]

seriously, i'd love to see this. some people said it turned it into a completely new movie.

[KurganX]

Just download it free. Check mysleen.com (there are actually several different edits)


And before you ask, yes the authors of these various fan edits insist on people not selling their fan creations.

This post has been edited by KurganX: 03 March 2007 - 03:33 AM

[Chefelf]

Yeah, if you pay for a copy of that you are being duped (and it's illegal). Generally they should only be available for free or trade.

[Prequel dialogue coach]

hey chelfelf, i loved that story about you coming home from the first screening of the phantom menace in a stunned silence. did you think it sucked that much? i loved it first time out, but it actually took repeated viewings and a little time to actually dawn on me that it wasn't what it should've been.

anyway how much an improvement does the edit actually make?

[KurganX]

The first edit I saw was awful quality (it came out long before the DVD and was based on crappy sources). It just greatly shortened the scenes with Jar Jar and edited out some of the more "annoying" comments, cutting down the slow dialouge parts to get to the action more quickly.

Other edits did the same and just cut in the deleted scenes from the DVD (when it finally came out).

Some of the latest edits I've seen are DVD quality and have Jar Jar, the Neimoidians and the Battle Droids speaking in a gibberish alien language with subtitles. Actually the "alien language" is just their lines reversed and sometimes remodulated a bit. So it's a bit obvious, but still.
The subtitles give them brand new lines to try to make things more serious.

As in an early draft of the script, Jar Jar wasn't going to just be "punished" he was going to be bludgeoned to death. The opening crawl was changed to have the Trade Federation involved in slave trade, not just protesting taxes. The group being "sent to the camps" are being sent to their executions (it's a death camp, not a simple prison).

The movie is a bit more watchable. Of course continuity errors are created by these changes with Episodes II and III, so those were re-edited as well (with new crawls, cuts, reverse speech/subtitles and some re-inserted deleted scenes). It's quite cool to watch though you may not agree with some of the cuts or insertions.

Once again see mysleen (and originaltrilogy.com forums) for details!

A few days to a week to download them. A half an hour to burn them to disc, watch and see for yourself! I don't personally have a problem with downloading these fan creations, as I own all the movies on DVD officially (plus three copies of the OT, two different versions!). So I've already paid my ticket to Lucas. ;p

But yeah, don't line somebody's pockets...

This post has been edited by KurganX: 03 March 2007 - 09:44 PM

[Prequel dialogue coach]

if i made a phantom edit, first thing i'd get rid of is the podrace commentator, fart jokes, plus anything jar jar says during the podrace. i'd trim much of anakin and jar jar's dialogue and also the podrace itself. putting subtitles for the gungans and neimoidians is a really good idea too. C3PO should go as well, as well as the R2 D2 "commending" scene and jabba the frikkin hutt.

This post has been edited by Prequel dialogue coach: 04 March 2007 - 01:33 PM

[Prequel dialogue coach]

yep just watched it. can't believe they left the podrace commentator in there, and they didn't cut enough anakin. i thought the beginning dialogue between obi wan and qui gon shouldn't have been cut, as well the underwater scene, it left the opening 25 mins too fast. the rest was first rate editing though

[mireaux7]

Whoa!!?!..never knew edits of this even existed, but given the rather large number of SW fans that are displeased with Lucas' work, it doesnt surprise me.

Honestly, If I had the opportunity,.I wouldnt do a mere edit,..but a whole entire script redux.

This post has been edited by mireaux7: 06 March 2007 - 11:14 AM

[KurganX]

yep just watched it. can't believe they left the podrace commentator in there, and they didn't cut enough anakin. i thought the beginning dialogue between obi wan and qui gon shouldn't have been cut, as well the underwater scene, it left the opening 25 mins too fast. the rest was first rate editing though

Which version of the Edit did you watch? What was the name of it?

[Prequel dialogue coach]

it think it was called version 1.11 or something, im pretty sure it was the very first phantom edit the one that came out in june 2001.

[Chefelf]

I watched the edit a long time ago (I think in 2001) but I just remember thinking that it was useless. I mean, the idea was neat but it only proves that no amount of editing can save that movie or change its flaws even if you take out some of Anakin's dialogue and most of the Jar Jar stuff.

[KurganX]

The later edits are more of an improvement, but yeah, none of them turn it into a good movie...

[princesskadee]

I watched the edit a long time ago (I think in 2001) but I just remember thinking that it was useless. I mean, the idea was neat but it only proves that no amount of editing can save that movie or change its flaws even if you take out some of Anakin's dialogue and most of the Jar Jar stuff.

The only real way to revise the film, would be to incorporate custom CG and digital vocal manipulation into it. Simply editing out unwanted script & scenes, can make for more confusion than the orginal content held.

[andy_k_250]

The only real way to revise the film, would be to incorporate custom CG and digital vocal manipulation into it. Simply editing out unwanted script & scenes, can make for more confusion than the orginal content held.

The Phantom Edit I.II is the DVD quality version. It also has a great commentary.

For the best Phantom Menace edit, check out Balance Of The Force by MagnoliaFan. He has a MySpace on it.

[Despondent]

Simply editing out unwanted script & scenes, can make for more confusion than the orginal content held.

Yet the fact is GL kept it confusing and STILL included all of that garbage.