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No-flag mild surpriser! It's like a shocker, but I'm not usually shocked.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 06:11 PM

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:01 PM

They were bloody lucky if I stood up for the pledge in my high school days, though sadly I was dumb enough to do it time and again during my younger and more formative years.

Whenever a teacher bullied and threatened me about it I'd just stand up and give the old fascist salute. Good times, good times.

And this actually does sound like something that makes sense, and for one of only a few times I gotta agree with a principal's actions. If people are using the American flag as a symbol of hatred and unacceptance, then that's a misuse of the flag and they need to be kept from doing that. They wouldn't let me burn a flag in my school, so why should they let other kids wave the flag in the faces of immigrant kids?

That's not a display of national pride, that's a display of biggotry that's only going to lead to racial tension and violence. The principal did the right thing here in my view.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:38 PM

What the fuck is wrong with America!? Cant you even rally the American flag anymore?
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:47 AM

Rallying behind the flag as a sign of patriotism is awesome. Using the flag as part of a symbolic protest against the very existence of Mexicans is flat-out racist.

I agree this was the wrong way to go about it. Just like taking a game away from kids who are fighting over it rather than trying to teach them not to fight, this school hysterically banned the flag rather than directly punishing the hooliganism that went with it.

An easier thing to do would be to round up the hooligans and suspend them. The best thing is they'd be easy to find, since a lot of them would be waving flags, fer christs sake.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 12:48 AM

QUOTE (civilian_number_two @ Apr 2 2006, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rallying behind the flag as a sign of patriotism is awesome. Using the flag as part of a symbolic protest against the very existence of Mexicans is flat-out racist.

I agree this was the wrong way to go about it. Just like taking a game away from kids who are fighting over it rather than trying to teach them not to fight, this school hysterically banned the flag rather than directly punishing the hooliganism that went with it.

An easier thing to do would be to round up the hooligans and suspend them. The best thing is they'd be easy to find, since a lot of them would be waving flags, fer christs sake.


Damn public opinion.... Mexicans kickass, why cant Americans exept that!? angry.gif
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE (J m HofMarN @ Apr 3 2006, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's not a display of national pride, that's a display of biggotry that's only going to lead to racial tension and violence. The principal did the right thing here in my view.


Yeah thats a good point.

QUOTE (COBNAT @ Apr 3 2006, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn public opinion.... Mexicans kickass, why cant Americans exept that!? angry.gif


I like Mexicans. But illegal immigration is illegal. Immigrate legally and there wont be any problems. Of course our immigration laws and processes are jacked up beyond repair. Somebody dropped the ball and NO it wasn’t George Bush so don’t even start. They’ve been fucked up for a long time. At least he’s addressing the issue. He may not be doing a fantastic job but he’s making an effort.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (Sailor Abbey @ Apr 3 2006, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Somebody dropped the ball and NO it wasn’t George Bush so don’t even start. They’ve been fucked up for a long time. At least he’s addressing the issue. He may not be doing a fantastic job but he’s making an effort.


I like Bush. unsure.gif If I was American Id vote for him.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:27 PM

As far as I see, they should deal with the kids, and not the flag.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (Otal Nimrodi @ Apr 3 2006, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as I see, they should deal with the kids, and not the flag.


That makes the sense. hihi
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Posted 04 April 2006 - 01:10 PM

I kinda agree that they should punish the guys and noit the flag, but in this situation there has to be a reason. You have to actually be violationg a school rule, I've been through it before.

My friends and I used to like to wear holes in our jeans and just toss on old clothes off our floor. The staff didn't like that, but they couldnt just write the rules as they went along. Until it was in the rule book they couldn't do anything about it.

This is a little different, but the argument could still be made.

"No no we were just waving the flag, we weren't promoting hatred against sp... I mean Mexicans."

But once you ban all flags (not just the American) you have a basis for going after people who are bringing them in.

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 06:12 PM

Makes perfect sense.

Do you think they'll re-allow flags after it's all dealt with?

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Posted 04 April 2006 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE (Otal Nimrodi @ Apr 4 2006, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Makes perfect sense.

Do you think they'll re-allow flags after it's all dealt with?

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Edited Edit: And I don't man just because I'm there. I meant the bottom ad things.


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Posted 06 April 2006 - 03:57 PM

Edit: Said something stupid. To cover it up, I will say something mildly interesting.

Are you SURE you had meant to quote me?

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (Otal Nimrodi @ Apr 6 2006, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Edit: Said something stupid. To cover it up, I will say something mildly interesting.

Are you SURE you had meant to quote me?


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