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Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:37 PM

I couldnt find any good articles about this subject but it is a damn good topic, should someone who is not fit to have childgren, be denied the right to have them? This issue has been debated for over a hundred years, even more so nowdays becouse pro-choice people compare people who want selective breeding to Nazi Germans in the early 40's.

My opinion is a bit extreme to most people so I shall not say it, but please, express yours.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:43 PM

You first. Its your thread.

Oh and I think you meant selective breeding.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:44 PM

Ill be general, Im for selective breading.
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:45 PM

And here comes the backlash. I'm just gonna sit back and watch.
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:48 PM

Oh come on, people arent going to insult me for my opinion, I sympanthize with people against it too, I understand, trust me.

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I just realised the the topic title is "collective" not "selective".

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 10:20 PM

SA, doesn't it work for sled dogs? I draw the line with that.

Except of course women selecting husbands based on being good providers and keeping pretty people in the family. As long as it's a personal choice, it's a decision one has to make for themselves. I'll draw the line there as well.
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (Despondent @ Mar 30 2006, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SA, doesn't it work for sled dogs? I draw the line with that.

Except of course women selecting husbands based on being good providers and keeping pretty people in the family. As long as it's a personal choice, it's a decision one has to make for themselves. I'll draw the line there as well.


What if there is a woman who has babies just to get money from the goverment then sells the babies to sex predators? Isnt it right to sterilize her?
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 10:58 PM

It's not right to damage any part of her person, even if you think it to be the cause of her transgressions. You need to move a thousand years or so into the future of ethics and catch up with us, Hammurabi. tongue.gif

I dislike this entire concept because no one should have the right to tell someone else whether he or she can bear children. Even excluding attempting to decide who the authority on what traits should be selected for is, and what those traits are, it's just a violation of personal liberty. You might as well tell someone what to wear and what to think, or how to fuck.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 12:44 AM

personally i agree with the first skatenigs album title

STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BREED!

and there should be laws about it.

people are really fucked up and it's the result of poor parenting, which happening on a large scale. this society is getting dumber with each generation, each class, each star sign, each maternity daily batch!!!

and the sooner we stop idiots from having children the better.

so selective breeding all the way!
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 07:12 AM

Hmm... this is troublesome... although I do understand the reasons for selective breeding, I'm too much of a nice guy to force such a decision on others. I guess I'll have to continue encouraging the use of the good ol' common sense by pointing sharp things at people then, maybe they'll refuse to procreate once they take the hint.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 06:32 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Mar 30 2006, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not right to damage any part of her person, even if you think it to be the cause of her transgressions. You need to move a thousand years or so into the future of ethics and catch up with us, Hammurabi. tongue.gif


Are you insulting me? huh.gif

QUOTE (Slade @ Mar 30 2006, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dislike this entire concept because no one should have the right to tell someone else whether he or she can bear children. Even excluding attempting to decide who the authority on what traits should be selected for is, and what those traits are, it's just a violation of personal liberty. You might as well tell someone what to wear and what to think, or how to fuck.


Lets pretend you had the chance to control wiether one woman wants to have babies or not, you decided yes, she should becouse she wants to, around 20 years later, one of the babies that came out of her womb decides to do a bulgary, out of random he (lets face it, most robbers are guys) picks a house, which happens to be your house and goes in, your family is there, all trying to sleep, you crawls through the house but accidently wakes one of your kids, they scream and *BANG*, they drop to the floor soaked in blood. Your wife goes to see whats happening, she opens the door and *BANG*, there shes goes. Guess whos next, thats right, you.

Ofcourse the chance of this happening is very slim of none, but theres a high chance of it happening to someone else, remember, if you dont sterilize those kind of people, your going to kill people, do you really want a young families blood on your hands...

Also remember, having a child is not a right, its a privlage.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 09:58 PM

bad people and criminals, like human violence in general, will always surface...

you can't breed crime out.

what you can do is say, be a little strickter about incest, AND people with long criminal records or history of violence.

also... to balance things out, no one with an IQ below 100.

IQ tests can be circumstantially subjective but there are some cases where stupidity is just obvious.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Apr 2 2006, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bad people and criminals, like human violence in general, will always surface...

you can't breed crime out.

what you can do is say, be a little strickter about incest, AND people with long criminal records or history of violence.

also... to balance things out, no one with an IQ below 100.

IQ tests can be circumstantially subjective but there are some cases where stupidity is just obvious.


Hm... is it right to marry your first cousin?
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:30 PM

NO!




EDIT: 'no' wasn't big enough.

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:36 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Apr 2 2006, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NO!
EDIT: 'no' wasn't big enough.


hihi

But seriuosly, chances are your ancestors were inbread and commiting incest, why cant you? Actualy this was a joke at first but now it raises a good point, why cant you?
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