[Slade]

If we're waiting for Laughlyn, we might as well stop checking this thread. We're lucky to see him once every two months, what with being blitzed and fighting with his Internet connection.

[Gobbler]

If we're waiting for Laughlyn, we might as well stop checking this thread.

... and I had already written the whole text for that picture... WEeee~~~llll, nevermind, I hope Mr. Laughlyn shows up again one of these days, but until then - here's something new for you. After the fan-mail.

Is she so thin because she's upset over how Hamlet's been acting? (Seriously, I like how you've progressed, but I think ribs showing up are gross, that's all. )

She is athletic, but not that thin. I would have used more lines if I had wanted to draw her ribs and not just her ribcage... ... ... eh, no, forget about that. I wouldn't have done that. I would have thrown up right away, because you're actually right. Anyways, have a look at her chest and her thighs, she's not that thin, but it's just natural for those lines to appear in that pose - even if you're not a walking skeleton - and there'd be something missing without them. I decreased their brightness though, 'specially for you. Hope you like this better.

Gobbler, do you draw from a trace?

I'm still not so certain about what "drawing from a trace" really is, so I guess I'll just explain what I do. I draw from imagination. I think of a pose and try to draw it as realistically (?) as possible. A lot of it is mere calculation, ie figuring out what happens to muscle A if muscle B is moved etcetera etcetera... Reality provides me with loads of examples and pictures to study, thus allowing me to reassemble the gathered knowledge in the way I want it to.

Gee, I sound like I really should have applied for that position as a god there... hope that helped answering the question.

Where's that next bit of porn art?

Right here.

Let's see... let's see... does it fit the table...? No it doesn't... grr...

Ka'Zee

My my, just where do I start...? It's a little difficult without the explanations for the picture I originally wanted to post (*shakes fist in Mr. Laughlyn's direction*).

Well, I've successfully proved myself an idiot with Ka'Zees depiction. How? By thinking that I could draw her using less than 500 lines. I don't know why I thought I could do that, it just jumped into my mind after I had done the first lines of her body - and already reached the 200 lines mark. >_< Really, what was I thinking?

I had a wonderful sketch for this picture, which was a bit scary because it actually looked good. Do you remember that sketch I made for At the Edge of Time? Never saw a bigger contrast before...

So, even with this wonderful sketch and all the cute little accessoires in mind, I still thought that I could do it with less than 500 lines.

I'll go on with this after I bashed my head against a wall for about the same number of times.

RriIighTyY... wheeerEe was I?

The thing was, that the picture which you didn't see yet consisted of about 1200 lines. 1200. That was one hell of a lot for me at that time, considering that Ophelia didn't need more than 270 lines...

... well...

Ka'Zees hair alone consists of over 1000 lines. >_< All in all, she features 2251 lines. Ouch. I think I know why it took me so long to finish this now...

I can't really say much about Ka'Zees character, which is funny, because I thought about her for ages... well, I hope that you can see what she's like anyway, even without me rambling on about her.

Gee, there's really not much left to say, so... let's just all hope that Mr. Laughlyn will return to the Blue Nowhere pretty soon.

This post has been edited by Gobbler: 14 May 2006 - 09:40 AM

[Sailor Abbey]

Oh my god that’s amazing!



I hate you.

[Otal Nimrodi]

That is beautiful... Bravo, bravo...

[Mirithorn]

It's gone past . Now all I can do is stare in openmouthed astonishment. Like this:

[Otal Nimrodi]

It's... It's perfect.

But.... Honestly, thought you'd get that under 200?

[Gobbler]

Under 500. Doesn't make me less of an idiot, though.

And I screwed up, by the way. Uploaded an obsolete version.

The signature was missing, the eyes still had a weird touch of green and... holy shit, is the mouth alright like that? I could have sworn that I had already fixed that... Darn it, it's gonna take forever and two hours to fix that... or do you guys think it's alright to leave it like this... ? *hopes to get out of a situtation that would only cause more hours of work*

I hate you.

Die Freude ist ganz auf meiner Seite, Miss Abbey.

This post has been edited by Gobbler: 15 May 2006 - 01:08 AM

[SimeSublime]

The hair is great. It reminds me of a detailed stained glass window when the sun hits at just the right angle. The belt's rather impressive as well, and it was only a matter of time before you added an oversized sword

[Sailor Abbey]

Die Freude ist ganz auf meiner Seite, Miss Abbey.

*shivers with inappropriate delight*

[Coco]

Man... that's utterly amazing. Congratulations! You have great skills.

[Slade]

It is indeed a very beautiful work.

The bottom of the hair especially draws my attention as spectacular.

[SithAvenger]

Wow, you have a wonderful drawing talent Gobler. Bravo!

[Gobbler]

The hair is great. It reminds me of a detailed stained glass window when the sun hits at just the right angle.

That's a relief. And a major one, since that was exactly the intention. I had some weird thoughts about old churches and cathedrals running through my head when I thought about what to draw next, but couldn't really figure out why.

I mean, I'm not religious, I despise or simply ignore the majority of christian art and I had loads of very unpleasant experiences in such buildings. Okay, I admit that the architecture is nice, especially since there are a lot of churches and cathedrals around here and many of them are five times as old as the United States, so they can be pretty interesting, but then again... architecture ain't really my thing.

Then it suddenly striked me that there was one thing that I had always loved about them: The windows. Well, not really that one thing. It was more the combination of stained glass and light that created such a wonderful contrast to the giant, harsh, cold and grey cathedral around it. It's this contrast that I'm trying to recreate.

The picture I used for the texture depicted a cathedral, too, by the way. Not a christian cathedral but rather a giant underground-cavern, which was filled with light that shone through an opening in the rock above. Very beautiful, I must say.

The belt's rather impressive as well, and it was only a matter of time before you added an oversized sword

If you think that is an oversized sword, then I'd better not show you the sketch for that picture. I took some sword-fighting-lessons a year ago during some medieval-festival-thingy. Zee's actually not just holding the sword like this because of the pose, but rather because this is her fighting style. I guess I poked fun at myself there, because during those sword-fighting-lessons, I somehow always ended up holding the sword the wrong way. Oh sure, it's offering you the possibility to have a nice and aesthetic fighting style, but in reality, it would only result in too many open stances and a bunch of broken bones if you try to block a full blow. Well, at least that was my experience. I'm sure Zee's able to handle herself a little bit better and with more grace than clumsy me.

The bottom of the hair especially draws my attention as spectacular.

That's the part where I began to really get into detail. The top of her hair still resembles the way I drew the hair in the preceeding pictures, but I came to the conclusion that it's just not very natural, so I tried to add more lines and twists and what not.

Alrighty, I'm currently working on another picture, but I guess that it's gonna take a long long time until I figure out what I really want to draw there. And I'm also trying to add some things and new effects to the technique, which means that I'll have to go back to the experimental stage again.

Especially the facial exp​ression, the eyes and the lips need a little bit more work, in my opinion. I suddenly felt like drawing some stuff yesterday, and this is what came out of it:

Still based on the same old lines and shapes but with more details and effects. I used emeralds for the iris and made the surrounding black circle a little bit thicker than usual to stress the contrast. I like this version, although I'm unsure how to include it into a whole picture yet. Maybe I'll have to start using some bigger textures to fill the void between the lines.

This has been fun, so I guess I might as well draw the other eye and maybe a face around it for practice. See you around.

[Emu]

Gobbler -

whoa. looking through this thread, I see how well your skills and technique have evolved. really amazing work, I hope to see more of it!

This post has been edited by Emu: 11 June 2006 - 09:31 AM

[Gobbler]

Why thank you, I hope I can provide you with something worth looking at very soon. This being said, I must admit that I'm a rather slow worker when it comes to drawing, though, especially since I've moved away from the minimalistic use of lines.

So I guess I should keep you posted on my progress while I'm still experimenting, so that you don't have to wait for months again. So here's the other eye, I'll think about her complete facial exp​ression next.

There's still some balancing left to do, but for now I'm just happy that I didn't get too caught up in the dimensions. It actually happens quite often that I start drawing something at the one end only to discover that the part at the other end is much smaller or larger in regards to the dimensions. But that's were this technique's real strong point is: Every line and every shape consists of points and vectors, so there's no loss in quality when I up- or downscale them in order to fit the whole picture. Pretty convenient, eh?

This post has been edited by Gobbler: 12 June 2006 - 07:38 AM