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Posted 05 January 2007 - 03:13 AM

Though I am a big supporter of ROTJ,
I also agree that ANH Star Wars
was in it's own right spectacular.

It was a time when Star Wars was pure...
Before the dark times.....
Before all that crazy CGI.

Thats where GL lost his way...
That and his script writing
Oh The Words that

come out of the characters mouths
everytime i watch the new trilogy, awful
Painfully Awful.

Yet, I still cling to the hope that maybe
they'll say something different each time
and somehow save the saga

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There's a lightside, a darkside

and it holds everything together


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Posted 05 January 2007 - 10:06 AM

As Moyale stated his dislikes of ANH, these I have yet to see... I bought the most recent release of SW on DVD, but I only bought it for the Original (Original) films on the second disk.

The only thing I saw that was corrupted was the new Emperor/Vader scene in ESB. That was crappy. No where near as good as the Clive Revel/Old lady Emperor.

But, with what Mayale has listed, I think I might have to see these desecrations in full.
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Posted 06 January 2007 - 01:52 PM

The Jabba scene was absolutely horrible. Didn't seem like Jabba, didn't look like Jabba. And the scene (I'm talking the original or this one) takes away from Solo's urgency to leave Mos Eisley. Jabba basically gave him a "get out of jail" card for "frying poor Greedo" - so why now were they in a hurry to leave, as Han stated, before the Stormtroopers arrived?

The entering Mos Eisley scene was just as bad (look at funny droid hit other funny droid on head, har, look Jawa fell off of his ride, har har).

Greedo scene - won't even go there.

Xwings taking off - I loved the original where you see them going off in the distance. Adding them in via CGI was yet another knee jerk move.

Basically, most of the CGI stands out like a sore thumb. They just hadn't got the colors, lighting, and textures correct. In this instance, the CGI against an organic shot scene looks absolutely horrible. They ruined the Landspeeder scene where Obi and Luke are stopped by placing creatures passing by the camera in the foreground - they look so obviously slapped into the film in post-production, its ridiculous.
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:52 AM

I made the mistake of watching some of "Star Wars" with the commentary of Lucas running.

The Falcon went into hyperspace and Lucas spent about 5 minutes explaining in smug self satisfied detail about he he always knew that Parsecs was a distance measure and not a time measure, ("this has confused many fans throut the years, but I never made a mistake using that word"). You see, the Falcon isn't any FASTER than any other ships, it just has a better navigation computer. It can plot a shorter course between any two points than any other ship, (thus less "parsecs")and so it can get there faster. This has always been the case, and and that's why Solo says "Less than 12 parsecs". It's nothing to do with being a fast ship, or the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy. Lucas just wanted to clear that up for us all. What a dick head.

Most commentaries are kind of interesting, with actors saying, "Look, you can see me slip on a banana peel here," or "in this conversation all the shots of X were filmed in January and all the shots of Y were filmed in August, that's why nothing matches up." Lucas just dribbles absolute crap about how he has never made a mistake in his life.

I can almost put up with him smugly defending himself during thoses interviews where everyone was bashing him about the new trilogy, (I mean he has to fight back a little bit doesn't he), but why not just admit that parsecs sounded cool and wasn't supposed to actually mean anything other than the fact that the falcon was fast and had a quick time for the Kessle run? He is a total idiot.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 08:22 AM

Watched it again last night and changed the channel during the Jabba scene. What a great movie! Everything was so authentic, from the beat up space helmets to the jaded smuggler! Who cares if it copied off of The Fortress? The dialog and characters more than make up for it.
It seems like everyone is over the nitpicking. Too bad.
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 12:52 PM

Good post, good movie, good lord, let's eat.

I mean, yeah. Insightful and neato point-by-point, azerty. Bravo!
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 02:13 PM

its a good post, but one thing is missing. "star wars" b.k.a. "a new hope", was great & complete without needing prequels/sequels, etc. because at the time, circa 1977, lucas wasnt really sure that the star wars saga was going to take off in being the next best thing since sliced bread.

pretty much all the actors involved thought the entire production was just plain silly, such remarks are voiced by kenny baker and harrison ford, as well as others. no one really thought this silly space opera would take off to enormous proportions and became an international smash hit.

so, being that lucas' money was limited, he said to himself,..if i can only make just one film out of this entire saga,.i want to choose the best part of the entire saga, and put that segment to film.

so thus, star wars/a new hope was born. and lucas, at the time, knowing that his film may have become a loss at the box office, at least wanted to see what he thought was the best part of the whole saga put to film.

so the points being made by the original poster about star wars being the absolute best film out of all 6 of them are in fact valid, because likewise they were lucas' exact intentions at the time as well. lucas knew the basic synopsis for how each story went, but chose to present us with the best chapter.
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 07:08 PM

ALthough I doubt he truley had written anything set before star wars until the 90s.
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Posted 15 August 2007 - 07:28 PM

QUOTE (optimus_prime @ Jul 6 2007, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so the points being made by the original poster about star wars being the absolute best film out of all 6 of them are in fact valid, because likewise they were lucas' exact intentions at the time as well. lucas knew the basic synopsis for how each story went, but chose to present us with the best chapter.


That's a bunch of hooie. George Lucas' ideas for his "space opera" were shifting even after the day it was opened! angry.gif

For further inquiry, consult The Secret History of Star Wars. It'll tell you all you need to know. wink.gif
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