Oh How We Hate Jar Jar....... ....Let Us Count The Ways......
#1
Posted 28 November 2005 - 09:08 PM
As a separate point, its also odd that there appear to be no Gungan females, making one wonder how Boss Nass earned his title, especially since by appearance he seems to be from another species.....
#2
Posted 28 November 2005 - 09:14 PM
The Gungans are hermaphadites...its canon!
Anyway, Jar Jar just plain sucked as a plot device...he did nothing to further the plot...except lead us to the unrealistic underworld of racially overtoned amphibians.
#3
Posted 28 November 2005 - 09:16 PM
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>
#4
Posted 28 November 2005 - 09:18 PM
How is it the that they primarily exhibit masculine traits is odd, like fighting and maintaining an army. There's a backstory to the breeding I'm glad I didn't see. And as for the symbiotic relationship they have with Padme's people, ick!
#6
Posted 29 November 2005 - 01:20 PM
As a separate point, its also odd that there appear to be no Gungan females, making one wonder how Boss Nass earned his title, especially since by appearance he seems to be from another species.....
What annoyed me about Jar Jar? His pidgin english dialect, his eye pitched voice, and slapstick humor. I mean Threepio was annoying and silly without having to step in crap or having animals break wind in his face. Everything about him was exaggerated. His lines like "exqueeze me" (Wayne's World, Saturday Night Live, circa 1989) really grated. Sure sometimes I could laugh at just how pathetic he was, and admire the patience of the people around him. Han would have told him to shut the #$@$# up or let Chewie collapse him like a balloon!
Boss Nass's long, hard to understand speeches were cringe worthy, as was his habit of shaking his fat CGI jowels to throw off torrents of spit, and yet he didn't have as much screentime as Jar Jar so I found him less offensive.
Basically when I first saw Jar Jar onscreen and heard him talk, I thought of Goofy, and then I thought of the awful tradition of Disney films ascribing a carricatured over-the-top sidekick to the straight-laced protaganist. It struck me as an insult and crutch that Lucas had thrown into the film to bolster the attention of little kids. I could be that as a parent, Lucas felt he had to re-evaluate the films and make them "more identifiable" to children by inserting child actors and child-like characters into the movies with juvenile humor. It just went unnecessary and overdone. He might as well have put in an alien that looked like Barney and have him sing a song and dance (came close to it with "Jedi Rocks" arggh).
Then there were all the Jamiacan stereotype jokes and innuendos people made, which sounded plausible, but Lucas and Ahmend Best and dozens of apologists deny it, so I don't use that one.
#8
Posted 29 November 2005 - 01:35 PM
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>
#9
Posted 29 November 2005 - 01:40 PM
I agree. I wanted to be Luke Skywalker when I was 5 and 6. I didn't need him to be my age to understand him or his character! The Ewoks weren't even that interesting to me, despite everyone saying they were the "hook" to get kids in. Maybe some people thought they were cuddly, I just treated them like any other background characters. I had three toy ewok figures, because they were in the movie, so it made sense to have those figures in my collection!
I'm guessing again, that when Lucas adopted his kids he felt all of a sudden that he understood children better and decided to craft his movies differently. Or perhaps after 20 years he'd forgotten what worked in the past and tried to reinvent himself needlessly by copying the Disney formula. Stuff like Barney the Teletubbies were popular, so there goes that general trend of dumbed down zaniness. He doesn't give kids enough credit.
That might also explain his wanting to censor the Imperial officers getting shot in ANH SE. Perhaps he felt that kids would be scared or scarred for life seeing "humans" killed. At least if they are inside armor or monster suites or inside space ships that blow up, it's less obvious to kids what's going on and he doesn't feel so bad about showing it.
And the "aimed at kids" thing explains well why we don't have any alien subtitled languages in Episode I, and like only one line (which isn't too important to figuring out what's going on) in Episode II. Kids who can't read (or can't read well enough to follow it) have an easier time with aliens who just talk funny (and yes, that all started with Yoda, but at least he kept his dignity... well mostly!). The Pod Racer announcer translates for us, etc. My dad read Greedo's lines to me in the theater seeing the re-release of Star Wars. Nobody complained!
It explains why we got a child size Boba Fett and younglings in Episode II to follow up child size little Annie and his street urchin friends in Episode I. We even got the Tusken kids, but Anakin gets to kill them, just like he gets to kill (all off camera) the Jedi kids in Episode III. Speaking of which...
Then we get PG-13 "Dark" ROTS and there goes the whole "it's just for kids" baloney finally. Oh well, at least he realized his mistake, even if he won't admit it publically...
Another impression I had about Jar Jar upon seeing him for the first time. I thought he looked like a Hadrosaur, minus the head crest, and given some floppy goofy ears. Actually if you watch the movie "The Guyver" the skinny wise-cracking black guy in the bad guy's posse turns into an alien that looks like an evil Jar Jar on crack & steroids with, IIRC, very similar features!
This post has been edited by KurganX: 29 November 2005 - 01:55 PM
#10
Posted 29 November 2005 - 01:55 PM
That was good
This post has been edited by Zatoichi: 29 November 2005 - 01:55 PM
"And the Evil that was vanquished shall rise anew. Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the innocent and Terror shall consume they that dwell upon the Earth. The skies will rain fire. The seas shall become as blood. The righteous shall fall before the wicked! And all creation shall tremble before the burning standards of Hell!" - Mephisto
Kurgan X showed me this web comic done with Legos. It pokes fun at all six Star Wars films and I found it to be extremely entertaining.
<a href="http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html" target="_blank">http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/cast/starwars.html</a>
#12
Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:06 PM
This post has been edited by Revan-47: 29 November 2005 - 10:07 PM
#13
Posted 29 November 2005 - 11:42 PM
To begin with, he didn't even come close to looking realistic. The animation wasn't that great and he was constantly doing things to remind us that he wasn't real. Then there was his fingernails-on-a-chalkboard high-pitched voice. Add in that horrible dialect and his habit of ranting and raving and I believe we have a candidate for the worst movie character of all time.
#14
Posted 30 November 2005 - 10:05 AM
To begin with, he didn't even come close to looking realistic. The animation wasn't that great and he was constantly doing things to remind us that he wasn't real. Then there was his fingernails-on-a-chalkboard high-pitched voice. Add in that horrible dialect and his habit of ranting and raving and I believe we have a candidate for the worst movie character of all time.
You can say that again.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an obi-wan to go.
#15
Posted 21 July 2006 - 07:19 AM
He is allegedly an adult, but acts like a total idiot. Drunk frat boys act more intelligent.
Acting like a "cosmic Stepin Fetchit" as one critic put it, did not help. He was like all of the bad racial jokes popular in the 1970s rolled into one.
A huge machine is bearing down on him, and he stands there, bleating like some terrible parody of a sheep, and makes no attempt to duck, or even step out of the way. Shouldn't adrenaline have kicked in and made him haul his sorry ass out of there?
Then, he takes them to the Gungan city, from whence he is in EXILE, no less, and gets arrested the moment he steps foot in there.
The mind boggles, what PEW-nishment did Boss Nass have in mind? Had it been Jar Jar's death by slow, agonizing torture (and I can see some Jar Jar haters who can use the animation software pulling it off) the movie would have made even more money.
How I long for the dignity and presence of Richard Simmons!