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Posted 20 October 2005 - 02:34 AM

I got an email from a friend of mine last week that I found really disturbing. It listed all these facts about blacks in the states. I did some research and found that many of them pop up on a number of websites.

Here are some stats from the email.

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-Black males make up only about 6% of the US population, they commit over half of all violent crimes and over 43% of all rapes.

-About 8 out of 10 sexual assault murders were interracial [within the race]. "White" victims and "White" offenders accounted for 55% of sexual assault murders, Black victims and Black offenders accounted for 24% of all murders involving sexual assault. [However,] 2% involved Black victims and "White" offenders, 15% involved "White" victims and Black offenders, and the remainder involved victims and offenders of other races.
[Quotation marks around Whites added because DOJ includes most Hispanics as Whites.]
-Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
-Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
-Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
-Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
-About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
-Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
-On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
-Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
-Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
-Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial. Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
-In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population. In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.
-The proportion of blacks and Hispanics in an area is the single best indicator of how dangerous it is.


I've been thinking about them a lot, it's BS right? I think some of them may have been made by a white guy since it's black vs white. But maybe since those are the two predominant races in the states, perhaps it makes sense.

What do you think, is it bullshit? The email was forwarded to my pal who forwarded it too me. So he doesn't know either. (I always get these fucking emails from people I know, I got another recalling some sort of drug that kills women, it's like nothing but bad news) The email also said that many of these stats are on the FBI site. I couldn't find them, but I'm also a retard at surfing the web so maybe civillian or chef could search that site to see if these are on there.

In my searches I found this site

http://www.detnews.c.../a02-311602.htm
It says 70% of all black babies are born out of wedlock laster year or something.

Other than that I found some KKK nazi sites and a few black journalists talk about crime, but I never find shit I want on the net.

This post has been edited by Jordan: 20 October 2005 - 02:36 AM

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 08:45 AM

I think it's racist, because of the obvious bias.

Even if all the facts were correct, they've been collected with the a certain leaning. Mind you, I didn't read the whole list but enough to get the jist. But read it out loud and it's "hate speech".
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 11:34 AM

Yeah, the facts that aren't bunk need to be taken into context: Like more blacks being arrested for murder than whites. The pigs love to pin stuff on the African American population. I'm sorry, but it's true.

The babies born out of wedlock fact I believe is a bit lower, but it's much higher than caucasians. That's a sign of poverty, as many blacks live in lower class neighborhoods.

Either way, the numbers have been fudged and phrasings warped.

"-The proportion of blacks and Hispanics in an area is the single best indicator of how dangerous it is." I think that's fairly blatent racism. A fie on this bullshit.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 12:06 PM

Every single list of unchallenged and unbacked statistics ever published anywhere should be questioned. Some of those stats are patently false (violent crime, and this is ferequently reported, has gone DOWN in the last 20 years), while others are seriously questionable: "-Black males make up only about 6% of the US population, they commit over half of all violent crimes and over 43% of all rapes." How come this is the sort of stat that is only floating around in email? If this were true, this is the sort of incredibly useful statistic that scientists drool over.

Lists of nonsense like that are the sort of wish-fulfillment BS that is common among bigots. Take one detail, lilke "minorities are poor," and add it to a list to lend "credence" to a theory that the evils of civilisation onto a single source. You won't have to look too far to find that similar lists show that Americans are responsible for the decline of morals, that Republicans are responsible for all world violence, that Democrats are responsible for the economic slump, and that Cucumbers are better than men. Oh, and of course, that there in international Zionist conspiracy to control the world and to make slaves of all Gentiles.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 12:14 PM

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 01:42 PM

I think instead of saying that black people are violent, we should take a look at the neighborhoods that a lot of blacks happen to live in. it has nothing to do with their race.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 06:19 PM

I thought it was BS when I went to the FBI site and didn't find any of the statistcs. Why bother make up bogues facts and then say you got them from a source which ANYONE can access with ease? I guess they were banking on the fact that nobody would bother check, but who the hell takes chain emails at face value?

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 10:23 PM

Loads of people willingly accept statistics, however bogus, that back up things they already believe. Hell, loads of people accept myths as well, hence all the magical places on Earth with Divine healing powers.
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Posted 20 October 2005 - 10:37 PM

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 10:32 AM

Most statistics that only take one thing into account are BS. For instance, "accident statistics" supposedly prove that women drive better than men. Well, other statistics show that traditionally men hold more positions that involve a lot of driving. They also show that when a man and a woman are driving in a dangerous situation, the man takes the wheel. Yet, insurance companies still get away with charging men more than women.

Hmm, just thought of this, women may get paid less than men, but women usually benefit much more from double standards. Maybe that should go on the Boys vs. Girls debate (if it hasn't already).

Anyways.... It is probably true that blacks account for more crime and stuff, but the conditions in which people live needs to be looked at as well. Proportionally (looking at class level) the rates are probably close to being the same). Btw, most poor people actually live in the country, not the city.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 02:38 AM

I got one of these from my local party leader. Did you know that over 100 percent of capitalists worship a giant golden dollar bill mounted in the NYSE?

Also, every American worker is whipped at least once a year by their evil capitalist boss.

And did you know that over 45% of women in Vietnam report that President Bush personally raped them?

I found all of it on the FBI's website!

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:23 AM

Well, remember that, oh, about 86 percent of statistics are made up on the spot.

Also, 75 percent of people have below average intelligence.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 01:00 PM

48% of people have had sex.
48% of people will have sex.
2% of people will become statisticians.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Jordan @ Oct 20 2005, 11:19 PM)
I thought it was BS when I went to the FBI site and didn't find any of the statistcs.  Why bother make up bogues facts and then say you got them from a source which ANYONE can access with ease?  I guess they were banking on the fact that nobody would bother check, but who the hell takes chain emails at face value?


Sorry Jordan, but the stats are based on these information pages, coupled with stuff from the CIA census pages. The E-mail's old news though. Every year another KKK wanabee rolls out another one.....
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 03:46 PM

THere is a higher crime rate in Black neighborhoods i saw something about it on the news. I don't think it has anything to do with race, but Black people tend to get caught up in gangs and shootouts more for some reason.
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