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Posted 22 September 2005 - 04:45 PM

Do you think it's fair that children should be tried as adults? I personally think that it's bull crap. The government says we're not adults until we're 18, but then they turn around and say that we can be tried for crimes as adults...

I geuss I'm just sort of upset about this whole thing. I suppose that some people deserve to go to prison no matter what age they are, but if I'm going to be tried as an adult, I want all the other privelages adults get once I get acquited.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 04:52 PM

I the prisons should be more about reform than punishment. And someone under 18 should at least be given a shot at reforming. Not that I have a problem with people getting killed, it happens all the time, but I don't think its right to give the death penalty to people under 18
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 05:09 PM

I don't think that can happen, even if it could no jury in the world would send a 15 year old to death.

I say for less serious/juvinial crimes (vandalism, shoplifting) they shouldn't. But for things like murder, rape, tax fraud without a CPA licence, they should be tried as an adult becuase those are very adult crimes.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 05:59 PM

What makes something an adult crime? every age is capable of doing those things. i dont believe in capital punishmentt anyways, but if you are going to try a kid as an adult, at least give him an adults rights.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 06:09 PM

I think I'll keep my mouth shut on this one. What brought this on anyway?
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 06:10 PM

I beleive that they still have the right to council, right to remain silent, right to a speedy trial.

By adult crime I mean feloneys, anything that can really get your ass handed to prison.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 06:21 PM

What you have to ask is if these teenagers that commit such crimes are doing so because of their ignorance or if they know what they are doing. How can you do these crimes if you dont know what yur doing unless you are mentally handicapped. I suspect the kids that attacked columbine knew exactly what they were doing and should have been tried as adults.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 08:05 PM

Of course, you can't know that without psycological evaluation.

QUOTE (Zatoichi @ Sep 22 2005, 07:09 PM)
I think I'll keep my mouth shut on this one.  What brought this on anyway?

News story about a kid who assaulted another kid.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 08:40 PM

I think that being tried as an adult when you're not is just another hypocritical double standard in the US legal system. It's been said, but if you're not going to be considered an adult by the government, they shouldn't be making exceptions to it, otherwise there's no point in the legal status. As it is, the legal age is 18, but one can't buy alcoholic beverages until he/she is 21. That's just as bad, but a little bit of a tangent.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:01 PM

Why do they have to say 'tried as adults' - why not have juvenile and adult courts for some things, but murder/rape/assault occasioning grievous bodily harm/that sort of thing has one way of being tried across the whole spectrum - any murderer, whether 9 or 90, gets tried with the same rights and sentencing. By that I don't mean capital punishment, which is a bloody stupid way of interpreting the reforming prison system - its bloody hard to reform someone when they've got sledgehammer drugs coursing through their veins and a faraway look on their face.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:22 PM

i really think it depends on the crime...

those two kids in england who kidnapped, tortured, and murdered that baby....

they should have been given life.

(actually it was one of the few occasions where the death penalty would have been fine by me - seriously that was some fucked up shit... imagaine what they're doing these days knowing they can get away with such shit.)
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Sep 23 2005, 12:22 AM)
those two kids in england who kidnapped, tortured, and murdered that baby....

they should have been given life.


They should have been tortured! Those bastards!

I think that it really depends on the crime...
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 06:59 PM

Again, you can't arbitrarily give half-legal adult status to a child for any reason, it just makes the joke of a legal system even worse. (I don't know how it is anywhere else, but it's the rich white males that get off on most cases, and the woman almost always gets custody of children).
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Posted 28 September 2005 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE (Slade @ Sep 28 2005, 07:59 PM)
the woman almost always gets custody of children


Not in my case Thank God

If you didn't add the rich bit, I'd have to disagree and actually have stuff to back that up. It seems that most rich people get off easy anyways, you know, because they're rich.

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