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Posted 13 September 2005 - 11:16 AM

hey, im new to this part of the forum, but i love books! yay for books, woohoo!
anyway, over the years, i have read sun tzu's art of war napoleon's art of war, and i am currently reading machiavelli's art of war. i thought it would be fun to compare and contrast the three (such as, how to create, maintain, organise, disband and employ an army)-anachronisms aside. and, more importantly, in a battle royal, who of the three would win an age of empires tournament?!

does anyone know of other art of wars? or other military classics?
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Posted 13 September 2005 - 02:01 PM

Machiavelli. He has a great deal of subtlety.
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 02:58 PM

i just today finished mac's AOW. and Otal, i agree that he would probably win the tourney; however, id attribute the victory to his micromanagment and civic leadership. i believe sun tzu was much more subtle than the other two.
this topic isnt as popular as i hoped/expected, none the less, if i can find a few interested parties, ill proceed to analyse three works with an emphasis on RTSs. ... 'cause im a huge dork, thats why!
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 07:10 PM

Sun Tzu would've whooped Napoleon, but I'm not so sure about Machiavelli. I mean, the Prince was AWESOME!
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Posted 17 September 2005 - 08:41 AM

In an age of empires tournament I think that Napoleon would get his ass whooped. One of his greatest qualities was being a rousing leader. It isn't something that can really be accomplished in the game. Therefore he would probably end up making a slew of really dumbass moves. Machiavelli would probably have spent his time getting upgrades. Sun tzu would probably biuld towers, get some upgrades, and build up his forces. He would then unleash a horde upon both armies. Napoleon would get wiped out, and Machiavelli would be hard pressed for troops because he was too busy getting upgrades (even if the few troops he has are stronger). I usually play a cross between Machiavelli and Sun tzu. Towers, upgrades, and starting out with a small yet unusually effective strike force. Time is a huge factor in my strategy.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 06:56 PM

Who was Machiavelli?
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 06:30 AM

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Machiavelli

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 06:05 PM

QUOTE (Gobbler @ Feb 28 2006, 03:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


OH... he was the one who wrote "The Prince", well why didnt anyone say so? Well anyway, the book does show that he knows a good offensive and defensive in politics and in war.
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Posted 28 February 2006 - 09:49 PM

Yes, he was the one who wrote "The Prince". Why didn't anyone say so? My copy says so. Right under the "The Prince", it says "By Machiavelli"
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 12:58 AM

QUOTE (Otal Nimrodi @ Feb 28 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, he was the one who wrote "The Prince". Why didn't anyone say so? My copy says so. Right under the "The Prince", it says "By Machiavelli"


I ment why didnt any PERSON tell ME.
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