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i really enjoyed this movie. incredible battle scenes, great acting(including the awkward scenes colin ferral had to play) and i thought it was really jsut awsome. but was he really gay? he seemed more bi than gay. when he had sex with that women he seemed to passionate to be gay. hephastion just seemed like a really really really really good pal.
Alexander was he really gay?
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 09:30 PM
A lot of Greek men of the time were bi.
Two theories - the concept of beauty didn't differentiate men and women. Men and women could both be beautiful, and if they were beautiful they were beautiful to both.
Other theory - at the time, gender roles had it that women were not educated and weren't really considered equal to men. If a man were to have a genuine spiritual companion, that would have to be a man.
Though Sappho stuck it to them good and proper.
Two theories - the concept of beauty didn't differentiate men and women. Men and women could both be beautiful, and if they were beautiful they were beautiful to both.
Other theory - at the time, gender roles had it that women were not educated and weren't really considered equal to men. If a man were to have a genuine spiritual companion, that would have to be a man.
Though Sappho stuck it to them good and proper.
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 10:53 PM
Yeah, it was a vastly different culture. Pedastry (sp?) was accepted and written about...
Either way, I don't care, and you can't judge a historical figure based on a Hollywood flick about him/her anyway...
Either way, I don't care, and you can't judge a historical figure based on a Hollywood flick about him/her anyway...
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Posted 12 August 2005 - 01:30 AM
Alexander was terrible. Acting, script, pace, CASTING was the worst ever.
I'm a huge fan of that age. The battle scenes were fairly accurate and about the only thing worth noting. Long lines of phalangies backed by rock slingers and javelin tossers, calvary used to out flank and feign enemy troops. But the problem was how it was shot. VERY VERY confusing.
At one point during the first battle, one of Alexander's generals announced that the 'left flank is crubbling'. But we never saw it crubble, and when Alexander showed up, it seemed to be doing fine. It was impossible to tell who was winning.
To answer your question, there is no evidence to support Alexander being gay, other than the fact that taking in young boys as lovers (cadamites) was some what common.
I'm a huge fan of that age. The battle scenes were fairly accurate and about the only thing worth noting. Long lines of phalangies backed by rock slingers and javelin tossers, calvary used to out flank and feign enemy troops. But the problem was how it was shot. VERY VERY confusing.
At one point during the first battle, one of Alexander's generals announced that the 'left flank is crubbling'. But we never saw it crubble, and when Alexander showed up, it seemed to be doing fine. It was impossible to tell who was winning.
To answer your question, there is no evidence to support Alexander being gay, other than the fact that taking in young boys as lovers (cadamites) was some what common.
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 12:12 AM
Haha! Phalanx, not phalangies, Jordan. Fingers are no substitute for guys with spears. 
And the young boys as lovers was again part of the pedastry (sp?). Odd culture in that respect. Kinda messes up the phrase "Platonic love."
And the young boys as lovers was again part of the pedastry (sp?). Odd culture in that respect. Kinda messes up the phrase "Platonic love."
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 12:14 AM
I don't have any interest to watch this movie and I think I will never have any.
Just seeing Colin Farrell in the poster makes me sick. The movie insults Alexander The Great!
Just seeing Colin Farrell in the poster makes me sick. The movie insults Alexander The Great!
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 01:14 AM
He wasn't that great. He did a good job pilaging. Whee, he united stuff. I'd much rather the Great Library stayed intact.
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 02:52 AM
Well, burning cities was what the cool kids were doing those days.
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 02:59 AM
Well, let's compare our history books! The bigger one wins!
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 03:23 AM
I'll write history too... And I'm not going to be a book editor!
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