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Posted 05 August 2005 - 11:48 PM

Don't suppose anyone here who remembers watching the 1980s GI Joe cartoon has seen the CGI laden DVD feature GI Joe: Valor VS Venom. The plot, as it were, revolves around the Cobra thugs trying to create an army of half animal/half human warriors to take over the world, and they manage to kidnap GI Joe team leader General Hawk, pump him full of the stuff and turn him into what looks like a cross between Michael Ironside and the Predator, leaving Duke in charge of GI Joe for the remainder of the running time. Other old faces include Scarlett, Flint, Snake Eyes, Wild Bill, Gung Ho, Shipwreck, Cobra Commander, Destro, the Baroness, Dr. Mindbender and Storm Shadow.

I just recently viewed the thing. It had its moments, but doesn't look all that good compared with the old cartoon. The CGI that worked so well for Beast Wars: Transformers does not work nearly as well for GI Joe, the Real American Hero.
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Posted 06 August 2005 - 10:58 AM

This kills me. I was a HUGE G.I. Joe fan growing up. I'm not going to stand here and defend the quality of the original show but it still holds a special place in my heart.

They did the same with He-Man and I just don't understand it. Why remake it and offend the original version? If you want to make something new, then go and make something new. Or show the original version in its original form. Don't go redoing it into something that bares only a passing resemblance to the original.
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Posted 06 August 2005 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (Lord Aquaman @ Aug 5 2005, 11:48 PM)
The CGI that worked so well for Beast Wars: Transformers does not work nearly as well for GI Joe, the Real American Hero.


Did you know that Beast Wars: Transformers is called Beasties here in Canada? Weird.
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Posted 09 August 2005 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (looktothesky @ Aug 6 2005, 07:29 PM)
Did you know that Beast Wars: Transformers is called Beasties here in Canada? Weird.


Why's it called Beasties?
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Posted 09 August 2005 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (Chefelf @ Aug 6 2005, 03:58 PM)
They did the same with He-Man and I just don't understand it.  Why remake it and offend the original version?  If you want to make something new, then go and make something new.  Or show the original version in its original form.  Don't go redoing it into something that bares only a passing resemblance to the original.


It's not for us anymore, it's for the ADD kids of the younger generation. They wouldn't put up with the older stuff, so the cheap option is to evolve the style rather than the content. Unfortunately the same also applied to starwars.....

Having said that, I made a personal promise to satan that he can have my soul if he does away with whoever came up with the heavygear CG animation.

So far he hasn't responded.
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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:45 AM

Anyone here bother reading the GI Joe comics? I looked for them, but could never find them in local stores. I have noticed though that Snake Eyes is revered as God by the comic book purists and of the ones I've talked to, reacted with the desire to lynch me when I said I wasn't a die hard Snake Eyes fan.

I tend to get a similar reaction from X-Men fans when I say I prefer Cyclops over Wolverine.
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Posted 10 August 2005 - 04:48 PM

Never argue with hardcore comic book fans. Any conversation should be avoided if possible.

Random incidental: GIJoe was known as action force on this side of the pond.
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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:17 PM

QUOTE (Laughlyn @ Aug 10 2005, 02:48 PM)
Never argue with hardcore comic book fans. Any conversation should be avoided if possible.

Random incidental: GIJoe was known as action force on this side of the pond.


What side of the pond are you on?
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 06:03 AM

The one that invades middle eastern countries.
No, wait.....
The one that has an excessive amount of terra panic in the media.
Err....
the one with the leader who rides roughshod over public opinion.
Oh fuck!...

The european side.
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 06:07 AM

QUOTE (Laughlyn @ Aug 11 2005, 12:03 PM)
The one that invades middle eastern countries.
No, wait.....
The one that has an excessive amount of terra panic in the media.
Err....
the one with the leader who rides roughshod over public opinion.
Oh fuck!...

The european side.


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Posted 11 August 2005 - 10:41 AM

I really liked the other G.I. Joe movie, which starts with a battle on the Statue of Liberty! You know, I think they might have similar plots... though the one I'm thinking of has them turning people into weird hybrid cobras. Though maybe that was just for fun... I don't know!

The point is that instead of launching a missile, one of the guys picks it up and Throws it at the target! That was awesome.
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Posted 07 September 2005 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE (Rory @ Aug 11 2005, 08:41 AM)
I really liked the other G.I. Joe movie, which starts with a battle on the Statue of Liberty! You know, I think they might have similar plots... though the one I'm thinking of has them turning people into weird hybrid cobras. Though maybe that was just for fun... I don't know!

The point is that instead of launching a missile, one of the guys picks it up and Throws it at the target! That was awesome.


That was the 1987 GI Joe movie, the last hurrah of the 1980s GI Joe craze that began with the MASS Device miniseries.

It revolved around this valley of bug people who wanted to reclaim the Earth after centuries in exile by using spores to turn humans into dumb mutants.

It was supposed to be a theatrical release, but because of the failure of the My Little Pony and Transformer films, it was relegated to direct to video, which sucks when comapred to the Transformer movie, the GI Joe movie is most likely the better of the two (neither was particularly good though).

And then there's the whole Duke-was-supposed-to-die-but-didn't-because-of-upper-management-and-the Optimus Prime-death-backlash, but that's another story.

The big saving grace of GI Joe the movie is the opening you mentioned with the battle at the Statue of Liberty.




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