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Posted 09 July 2005 - 03:46 PM

Something struck me the other day while watching (and with the PT mostly fastforwarding) the six part trilogy ... a few instances of George entertaining the thirteen year old boy in us all.
Not to worry, if the creator was thirteen, but it seems slightly grubby that a grown man things it correct (in a series where no one displays any bodily functions whatsoever, blood or bodily fluids) that Leia appears for no apparent reason in a metal bikini, while Padme suddenly swaps her regal robes for a black outfit a dominatrix would slap you for suggesting.

What makes it worse of course is that on the extras of AOTC Natalie Portman says with almost a straight face that all her outfits were a delight ESPECIALLY a particular outfit GEORGE DESIGNED HIMSELF. Not suggested, or made recommendations on, BUT DESIGNED FROM SCRATCH. She said this with neery a tear or quiet wretch. Good God what a gutsy little actress that one is.

Just thing of that next time you are all recommending GL for sainthood.

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 11:49 PM

I just get the feeling that Lucas doesn't understand women... he seems to have a real problem with this. Him "dressing up" Natalie must come from him watching (or playing with) his daughter and her barbie dolls.

How is that this same man who wrote Princess Leia could not duplicate an equally shining character? Or is this a testament to Carrie Fisher?

I don't see Leia in a metal bikini as a problem because that's Jabba's character and fits the situation. Padme in a dominatrix is a problem. Costumes are all extensions of character. How does this costume express Padme's character? She looks like she's hot-to-trot, yet she pulls the brakes on the situation? Talk about MIXED SIGNALS!!

I think the costuming in the Prequels is damned awful.

Altho, I know this is not the point of your post. I just think that Lucas has no concept of what drives a good female character. Again, I note with interest, that Princess Leia is based on Lucas' tom-boy sister, and personality traits of his ex-wife, Marcia, too.

Now, when ROTJ rolls around, Marcia is no longer a part of his life.... Leia's character falters... hmmm..

Now, in the prequels, there is no Marcia, and Linda Ronstadt is history for a while now, and the only female influence in his life is his daughter who comes across as rather vapid to me, or just simply a pre-adult who has been pampered and spoiled... and the character of Amidala falters... hmmm...

The only other women in Lucas' life are his secretary and any other employee, and I'm sure they don't think of Lucas beyond being a boss, so they may across to Lucas as rather alien and inaccessible... the remainder of the females in the prequels? Alien and inaccessible....
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:01 AM

On the dvds in the extra features it was talking about leia's costume for a new hope and george wouldnt allow carrie fisher to wear under wear. he said a creepy line like there isnt any underwear in space. what a pervert.
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:16 AM

Where!! The guy I work with is a fanboy and it would be great to show it to him, he would die of embarrasment.
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE (Revan-47 @ Jul 10 2005, 01:01 AM)
On the dvds in the extra features it was talking about leia's costume for a new hope and george wouldnt allow carrie fisher to wear under wear. he said a creepy line like there isnt any underwear in space. what a pervert.


Yeah. I noticed that too. Lucas is a pervert. That's why his wife left him...
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:21 AM

Does this mean I can't watch SW's anymore? I've just cleared my Minidisc player of all Michael Jackson albums.

Fuck!
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE (Patrick Bateman @ Jul 9 2005, 09:21 PM)
Does this mean I can't watch SW's anymore? I've just cleared my Minidisc player of all Michael Jackson albums.

Fuck!


Wow...I hope you at least left Thriller on there. I dont care who you are,that is one hell of an album.
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 12:42 AM

I couldn't do it. I had to wipe it, maybe there's something wrong with me but if the guy next door was a kiddie fiddler I would feel obligated to beat the shit out of him. I am live and let live about most things but I draw the line at hurting someone else (this is hypocritical I know but if you rape etc you deserve the bash)
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 06:21 AM

Before this one gets moved to the debate club I'll just make a point about the Padme thing.

Padme is a cock-tease. She tells Anakin that he's got no chance of getting his grubby little Jedi paws on her, then wears something for their little evening fireside chat that's blatantly going have an effect on him which can't be explained by the force.

Foul temptress, I cast thee out!
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Patrick Bateman @ Jul 9 2005, 09:42 PM)
...(this is hypocritical I know but if you rape etc you deserve the bash)


But he made Thriller, man.
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QUOTE (WalkingCarpet @ Jul 10 2005, 03:21 AM)
Before this one gets moved to the debate club I'll just make a point about the Padme thing.

Padme is a cock-tease.  She tells Anakin that he's got no chance of getting his grubby little Jedi paws on her, then wears something for their little evening fireside chat that's blatantly going have an effect on him which can't be explained by the force.

Foul temptress, I cast thee out!


Yeah, what a bitch.
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (WalkingCarpet @ Jul 10 2005, 07:21 AM)
Padme is a cock-tease.  She tells Anakin that he's got no chance of getting his grubby little Jedi paws on her, then wears something for their little evening fireside chat that's blatantly going have an effect on him which can't be explained by the force.


You really have a point there, WalkingCarpet. Padme is a real idiot. She doesn't want Anakin to be in love with him and then she uses that dominatrix suit. What a bitch.
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 09:15 PM

God, Lucas goes beyond Pervert. Beyond Bill Clinton. Beyond Monica Lewinski, who kept the dress he spilled semen all over. This goes to a word I made up based on these annoying kids I know. This is Twinnish.

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 11:57 PM

I had never heard about the underwear thing, but I had heard that Lucas had had them tape down Carrie's breasts with gaffer tape because "there's no jiggling in space."
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Posted 11 July 2005 - 01:12 AM

It's been so long since I have seen this piece of shit film that I don't even remember the costume. Someone post a picture up - lol.
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Posted 11 July 2005 - 01:42 AM

Here's the only picture I found on Google with the whole costume:



We are talking about this costume right?
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