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Where's the Sales Pitch? Palpatine fails to deliver ROTS/ROTJ

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 07:19 PM

What's the REAL selling point in following the Dark Side? Consider that Palpatine just rants at Luke in ROTJ about the power of the dark Side offering no explainations, Vader says he must obey his master, but gives no reasons as to why.

All this was supposed to be clarified in the PT. Palpatine offers the weak story of how his master knew how to make life through the Force and avoid death, something Anakin is interested in because of the attachment to Padme, good reason so far, until he sees Palpatine finish off Mace Windu in a most distressing manner. Stands to reason here that in the pursuit of everlasting life, palpatine only demonstrated the ability of death and killing.

At no time is the appeal of the Dark Side stated, just that the Jedi are "corrupt" and Anakin buys this without question.

And since he knows he has thoughts he shouldn't be having and does things that he knows better not to, and since he's born because Sideous manipulated the Force, then he can't really be held responsible in the way a regular person could all the way. He's more of a marinette from beginning to end.

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 10:51 PM

THE ANSWER IS UNDERSTOOD ONLY IF LUCAS WENT WITH THE ORIGINAL TIME LINE...THAT IS ( AGAIN !~ ) 1 VADER AND LUKE FATHER ARE ALWAYS TWO SEPERATE PEOPLE...THIS BS IN EMPIRE WAS MADE UP AS HE (LUCAS) WENT ALONG...YES VADER "WAS" LUKE FATHER BUT IN NAME ONLY AFTER HE KILLED LUKES FATHER AND TOOK PADME AND THE OFFSPRING AS HIS OWN...PADME THINKING ANAKIN WAS KILLED IN COMBAT....WHEN PADME FINDS OUT THATS WHY SHE DIES OF A BROKEN HART...SHE LOVED THEM BOTH ANAKIN SEXUAL VADER PLATONIC...THE LOST OF BOTH WAS TOO MUCH...THEN DURING THE "REAL" FIGHT BETWEEN OBI-WAN AND VADER ( NOT ON THAT BS PLATFORM STUFF BUT IN AN AGED AND FALLING APART JEDI TEMPLE ) THIS WOULD HAVE CAME OUT DURING THE FIGHT AND VIA "KUNG-FU " LIKE FLASHBACKS...WHY VADER WAS SO CONVINCED THAT THE DARK SIDE WAS THE WAY TO GO....IF ONE SEARCHS ENOUGH ONE WILL FIND A TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPLANATION ( PRE 1980 ) OF WHY VADER FELL...IF LUCAS WOULD HAVE WENT WITH THIS EVEN WITH THEM HORRIBLE EWOKES ROTJ COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED...BUT ALAS THIS WAS NOT TO BE...MAYBE IN A HUNDRED YEARS THE WHOLE SW SERIES CAN BE "RE-IMAGED"...AND DONE RIGHT....