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George Lucas. Open or Closet Rascist There's some weird shit in Star Wars ...

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Posted 08 July 2005 - 10:18 PM

There are too many instances in Star Wars to ignore or simply overlook. It's not 'looking' for something if it jumps up and slaps you in the face.
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 10:28 PM

I've never been slapped in the face by Star Wars for racism. Shoddy acting, contrived plots, horrendous dialogue, sure, but no racism.
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 10:34 PM

It's there dude, behind all the cgi and muppets and lazered explosions there lies the beast that is rascism - Lando! - cough.
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 10:37 PM

Floppydisk: Because they didn't stereotype african-american culture in any shape or form. Honestly, what a stupid argument. You'd be better off arguing the racist overtones in the original Tolkien. A lot of Lucus' portrayals in the last three films have been stereotypes. I admit that the original three didn't make any racial stereotyping all that blatant, and you kind of had to be looking for it to see it in a lot of places. But christ, dude, you surely must have noticed. The Trade Federation's stupid accents, the Jew slaveowner, the whole 1940s-Hollywood-black-servant act that Jar Jar had going on. How could you miss it? It's a kick in the face.
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 10:40 PM

Damn straight ...

Fuck, why couldn't GL just fuck off and let the Kasdan direct everything, or have Coppola involved
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 11:18 PM

Because he are a GENIUS
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Posted 09 July 2005 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE (Rhubarb @ Jul 8 2005, 11:18 PM)
Because he are a GENIUS


I too will start to pluralise George, as he truly is three in one, God of Star Wars, Devil of Star Wars and Furry Fat Chubba of the Galaxy
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Posted 09 July 2005 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Rhubarb @ Jul 8 2005, 11:18 PM)
Because he are a GENIUS


Right out of the mouth of lil' Ralphie Wiggum
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Posted 10 July 2005 - 07:13 AM

QUOTE (floppydisk @ Jul 8 2005, 10:07 PM)
This is absurd. You're simply reading way too much into what you see. You have to be looking for this stuff before you actually notice it. This movie doesn't make people racists if they watch it. Just because there are some coincidences doesn't mean anything. The black riders from LOTR were black. Why aren't you ripping Peter Jackson to pieces for holding back the black community?


Regarding people getting mad at 'black' being a sign of evil- Black people are not black, they're brown, so it's not even an issue.

People do rip on TOLKEIN for being a racist since he made dark people the evil people. Jackson smoothed this over by not talking about 'dark people' in the script and only showing one bad black guy, the rest of the 'evil' men were covered in face cloth so you really could'nt make out their skin color.

Lucas is not a racist. He's many things, but not a nazi.

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 09:52 PM

Nazis have nothing to do with it this time, thankfully.

Black is a universal symbol for evil, has nothing to do with skin color.

And if you're going to rip on Tolkien, how about the lack of strong female leads? Actually, don't do this, I don't want to argue in here.
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Posted 11 July 2005 - 12:29 PM

QUOTE (Patrick Bateman @ Jul 8 2005, 10:34 PM)
It's there dude, behind all the cgi and muppets and lazered explosions there lies the beast that is rascism - Lando! - cough.


Why does Lando being played by a black actor mean he should not be double crossing criminal type? What if Lando was white? Do you think the script would have changed?

And how come Mace Windu isn't a slimmy creature too?

I do agree w/ the asian steriotypes though. I thought people would have been mad, I guess not though...

P.S. Anakin's owner was probably supposed to be a seedy Southern Italian.
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Posted 11 July 2005 - 12:32 PM

PPS

The SW Universe is racist, but not black and white, or for Twi'leks blue and...whatever.

Just look at how Chewy was treated...no metal in ANH

The wookiees were inslaved
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 01:45 AM

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So all the aliens were these racial stereotypes: Lando Calrissian was the black, double-crossing scumbag, Chewbacca a kind of faithful Polish gunner type and so on. But it’s so much more blatant in The Phantom Menace. The Trade Federation are obviously Japanese – the “Yellow Peril” that Americans are so frightened of. Then there’s the money-grabbing salesman with this hooked nose – evidently Jewish – and Jar Jar Binks is just this comedy gay Jamaican


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

which bathroom wall did he read that little nugget off?
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 02:14 AM

There was something strangely familiar about that bit.
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 06:51 PM

How are the Trade Federation "obviously Japanese"? I find that comment far more offensive than anything in Lucas' universe.
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