[Revan-47]

Of course you can like the t-shirt! Bet Revan already buying his online... it'll be the *thing* when he shows up with it!

And glad to know you're right-hole-oriented.

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ID NEVER BUY THE T-SHIRT. FOR THE LAST TIME IM NOT BASHING HOMOS!!!!!!!!!

[Patrick Bateman]

Firstly, Natalie Portman is God, and she lives with Meg Ryan her lesbian life partner. They created the world in 5 and a half days and still had time to make forty movies between them. There may be people out there who disagree, who think that Brad Pitt is god, or Jonny Depp, they are wrong. Beware people, they are the Antichrist's ..... it's all in revelations people!!!

Secondly, the fact is Raven, that you still hold tight to the premise that homosexuality is genetic. This is not fact as of yet, anymore than the fact that a predeliction for skydiving, or cake, or murder, or screenwriting, or gardening is genetic. Just because someone writes that it is does not make it so, something you would discover if you read more than a single book. Take Kinsey's research for example. The most indepth re on sexuality the world has ever know and he concluded that there is a scale of hetero-homo sexuality, which we all tend to navigate through our lives.

How's about that bigot??? - sorry, no need to be mean I shall rephrase that.
How's about that buddy???

[Revan-47]

i never said it was fact. i simply said it was an interesting point. and quit flaming or ill report you to a moderator.

[Patrick Bateman]

Quit flaming!! Is that hate speech? You'll report me to a moderator? How's about just running off to mommy? Or better yet taking your ball and going home?

Seriously dude, you didn't just 'make a point'. You raised it as if it was fact, got yourself into a whole heap of trouble and have not the knowledge base or the EQ to scurry out of it.
At the least hopefully the differing opinions have struck enough of a nerve to help you reconsider things.

As for accepting christ. I was a christian for twenty years (give or take) in a christian family etc, I know the bible inside and out and there are at least five good things in there that could be taken in reference to gays as there are bad.

Don't even get me started on Sodom and Gomorrah. The good christian guys offers up his virgin daughters as rape meat!!! What a good christian example!

P.S Read Kinsey, it would give you a solid base at the least. There are even photos of boobies in it if that helps

[Revan-47]

Quit flaming!! Is that hate speech? You'll report me to a moderator? How's about just running off to mommy? Or better yet taking your ball and going home?

Seriously dude, you didn't just 'make a point'. You raised it as if it was fact, got yourself into a whole heap of trouble and have not the knowledge base or the EQ to scurry out of it.
At the least hopefully the differing opinions have struck enough of a nerve to help you reconsider things.

As for accepting christ. I was a christian for twenty years (give or take) in a christian family etc, I know the bible inside and out and there are at least five good things in there that could be taken in reference to gays as there are bad.

Don't even get me started on Sodom and Gomorrah. The good christian guys offers up his virgin daughters as rape meat!!! What a good christian example!

P.S  Read Kinsey, it would give you a solid base at the least. There are even photos of boobies in it if that helps

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Really, i brought up that point cuz i read it in an article and it souded interesting. im not trying to debate it and i never started with the resources to debate it. i never once used the bible as a reference to homos being bad cuz i knew that that would make people pissed who arent christians. and i never said they were bad. im not trying to get in a fight with you but seriously all youve been doing is being a royal prick and instead of making yourself sound smart youve made yourself out to be a major asshole. im pretty solid on the subject cuz its a personal issue for me. trust me ive studied a lot on the subject.its an odd recurrance in nature(yes ive read where scientist have found homosexual animals). but this whole time ive pretty much been on my own and instead of not saying any more on the subject ive stayed and taken a pretty bad beating(call it initiation, its my first real debate on this site) so dont harass me on me not having the guts to argue. you have such a shitty ass self esteem you like to find people on this website and pick them apart. look, im sorry if yur bisexual cat likes to rape you every night but dont take yur problems here.

[Patrick Bateman]

First of all it's not rape it's consenual cat-man loving, we take turns I am on top Monday Wednesday and every alternate Friday ...

Also, weren't you the guy who complained about nastiness??? Te he he, I feel you are an intellectaul kitten cornered, left no option but to strike, with baby claws. Poor baby ...

Also, seriously you should read kinsey, although I think you are a prick I think you are not beyond redemption. Shut up for a few weeks, read about Kinsey and think.

It may lead to a more relaxed life little buddy

[Rhubarb]

And I thought I was nasty...

[Revan-47]

First of all it's not rape it's consenual cat-man loving, we take turns I am on top Monday Wednesday and every alternate Friday ...

Also, weren't you the guy who complained about nastiness??? Te he he, I feel you are an intellectaul kitten cornered, left no option but to strike, with baby claws. Poor baby ...

Also, seriously you should read kinsey, although I think you are a prick I think you are not beyond redemption. Shut up for a few weeks, read about Kinsey and think.

It may lead to a more relaxed life little buddy

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Listen, i dont want to make enemies on this site. how about a truce. ill read kinsey. isnt there a movie about him?i dont feel im ignorant or stupid,im only 14 years old. give me a break i think ive done pretty well.

[Patrick Bateman]

Alright truce accepted. There is a movie, called Kinsey starring Liam Neeson. It's pretty kick ass so it's well worth the watch. As for enemies, they are more fun than you think. For example I have been shat on by Rhubarb more times that I dare recall, and the old lady who lives next door to me and I get into fights all the time, she is a small thing but surprisingly resilient

[SithAvenger]

Why can't we have peace in this topic?

[civilian_number_two]

Revan: 1: Your main source in the "Gays are genetically different" is a chemist who wrote some shit on a web page, not a geneticist or even a published book. I'm not saying there may not be something to that, but points being points, niggers are born "that way" as well, and we used their "birth defect" for a long time as an excuse to make them run our plantations and to force Jesus on them. So, all in perspective, I think.

2: Who cares? Born "that way" or not, this is the world we got; let's try to run a society! Mozart was probably born with an affinity for music; I for one say good thing we like music more than we like fags. The point of all this, and what it has to do with God, is that Christians keep bringing up God whenever they want to talk about how society ought to be run, and they tend to come down on Gays for not adhering to some of the nastier areas of the Old Testament, a book a lot of Christians don't even read (have you seen those publications of the New Testament plus Psalms? They are popular for a REASON!). I do appreciate that you are breaking tradition with most Christians, and acknowledging that homosexuality is not a choice, but you did bury your point with the "birth defect" nonsense. I agree that you have apologised for that, but I am not yet convinced you meant it. It might be helpful for you to read Kinsey, sure, but more helpful might be growing a bit of empathy. I appreciate that you're 14, so it's pretty much impossible right now. Intellectually you are a blank slate, with nothing but learning to do, so read read read. However emotionally you're not going to do any growing up until you hit 25. So don't sweat it; you were born that way.

[Revan-47]

did i mean it? of course i did. id never tell my cousin he had a birth defect. and are you saying i have no empathy cuz im a teenager?

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[Patrick Bateman]

I think he's right dude, it's pretty much follow the crowd until you hit your twenties, even later ... even those who forge their own path are usually following someone else, just someone a bit further ahead than them.

I figure homosexuality is normal, as Kinsey said, how can something that occurs in nature be unnaturual. Like most things it comes down to whether anyone is being hurt, and I can't see where homosexuality hurts anyone? As for the old argument that they shouldn't be allowed kids, studies show that kids raised by gay parents are completely 'normal' in every way, the only difference is that they have higher stress levels due to the hassles over having 'fag' parents ...

[Revan-47]

That does make sense, and if you are coming from a christian viewpoint, homosexuality is considered a sin right? and we are born sinners so you could call sin natural. and so yes homosexuality is "natural"

[Patrick Bateman]

Firstly nowhere does it specifically classify homosexuality as evil

Secondly, the whole basis of christianity is that we are not born sinners, that we are born pure and have decided to sin. Seriously dude, this is the crux of chrisian theology ... I assume you are joking otherwise you are seriously mislead.