But the church sure provides a hefty amount of dont's.
God Any christians on the forums?
#106
Posted 05 July 2005 - 11:58 AM
But the church sure provides a hefty amount of dont's.
#107
Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:12 PM
When say "church", I mean THE church, with a capital C. The perspective and the speech the Church delivers on the whole stuff with the use of condoms, sex, abortions and related matters just irritates me.
Besides that, I also don't believe in god(s).
Isaac Asimov
#108
Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:14 PM
homosexuality
Here are some links.They are some actual websites although it doesnt appear that way on my post.
This post has been edited by Revan-47: 05 July 2005 - 12:15 PM
#109
Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:18 PM
How could someone with such a supposed open heart have such a closed mind?
Give me one reason why homosexuality, bisexuality, consensual orgies ... are in any way bad.
One, just one, and don't pull the old "because God says so" argument. In the bible God says a lot of things which most christians nowadays do not follow, the main things however he seems unwavering about and provides backup reasons. Sexual acts that differ from the Missionary postion are of the former, not the latter.
Seriously dude. Give me one reason .... I'm waiting ....
#110
Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:49 PM
#111
Posted 05 July 2005 - 01:20 PM
You scraping very near the bottom of your arguments' pan, aren't you?
Isaac Asimov
#112
Posted 05 July 2005 - 01:43 PM
I'd like to add more, but that's enough for now.
Less Is More v4
Now resigned to a readership of me, my cat and some fish
#115
Posted 06 July 2005 - 12:57 AM
I suspected as much that you were going to come up with explanation like that.
However, please read my post again. It is not the scientific argument that I refuted, it is your attitude. The attitude you show by chosing this particular comparison.
I don't know but you seem to have a problem with your own language. Do you realise that words can hurt, and that they can hurt a lot? You may have well meant a very innocent thing, but as a result you come across as a narrow minded hyper-conservative. Even above you did not choose words like "genetically determined", which has really a neutral register, you chose "defect", which has a distinct negative connotations.
Again - lots and lots of people are homosexuals. They are artists, managers, hairdressers, writers, teachers, they lead a normal life. Please understand that you have no right to call these people "defective".
I am very prone to depressions. It could be that it is genetic. Am I defctive?
I don't want to have kids. It is not normal, is it? It could be a result of my faulty genes. Am I defective?
Please, please try to be more careful with words in future.
#116
Posted 06 July 2005 - 01:21 AM
Just because you're different doesn't mean that something is wrong with you. I've had very few friends, never had a girlfriend, and have never felt in with a crowd, but I'm not gay, nor do I have any sort of mental defect. I'm just not like most other people, and that makes them uncomfortable around me and ergo me around them. There's an entire personality to take into effect.
And indeed, that was a dreadfully poor choice of words. You were comparing homosexuality with a disease, which is rather silly and also insulting. "Damn it Otto, you have Lupis!" comes to mind, but this is more like "Damn it Otto, you refuse to wear anything but beige!" It doesn't harm anyone, the only thing saying it's bad/"morally wrong" are two dodgy passages in The Bible by authors that can't really be trusted.
#117
Posted 06 July 2005 - 02:15 AM
Secondly, Raven just come right out with it dude. YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE. I don't know what the root cause is but I think it's safe to say that it revolves around a tingly feeling you experienced last time you saw Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ. No stress dude, just deal with it.
The only people who get so stressed about gay people are those that seem to have some other agenda. I'm not gay but I say live and let live, what harm is it doing ... fuck all, so where's the problem.
I am not attracted to the elderly, but does that give me the right to limit their freedom to shag like crazy, hell no.
If God had wanted infertile couples to fuck he would have made them fertile right? That's the crux of your argument. What a load of bull shit, you small minded scared little man
#118
Posted 06 July 2005 - 03:15 AM
He thing's fags are gross, big deal. I see creepy young gay men every day. I think they're gross.
Why can't people just dislike something nowadays. Why does there always have to be this hidden reason behind everything. If you don't like gays for whatever reasons you're either
1)Nazi
2)Gay yourself
3)Narrow minded
4)Scared of them
Give me a break. If find them creepy (look, walk, act) End of story.
This post has been edited by Jordan: 06 July 2005 - 03:16 AM
#119
Posted 06 July 2005 - 03:37 AM
Gay people have fewer rights, higher levels of stress, constant hassles, all because of bigots like Raven. Now, that doesn't mean that we all need to love each other and hug and agree and stop thinking ... it just means that comments such as "fags are gross" or that gays are "creepy" are perhaps not pleasant.
We don't need to all agree but we do need to get along, it's called a society and it seems to have the odd benefit.