God Any christians on the forums?
#608
Posted 27 September 2005 - 08:34 PM
My question
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How is it possible for A GODto get angry?
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How is it possible for A GODto get angry?
#611
Posted 27 September 2005 - 11:49 PM
well, if a GOD can feel HUMAN emotions then it isnt a GOD at all.
wayne- hats off to your ace avatar.
wayne- hats off to your ace avatar.
This post has been edited by jariten: 27 September 2005 - 11:50 PM
#613
Posted 28 September 2005 - 09:15 PM
What is ungodly about emotion? Humans were supposedly created in His image; does "image" necessarily have to single out the physical, or can one assume that because God has emotion, His creation which was made in his likeness would also have emotion? Must we be so possessive of this word, "emotion?"
...I'm not taking this as seriously as I sound like I am, FYI :-P
...I'm not taking this as seriously as I sound like I am, FYI :-P
I am writing about Jm in my signature because apparently it's an effective method of ignoring him.
#614
Posted 29 September 2005 - 01:33 AM
well heres an essay i wrote some time ago for my own petty amusement. its not exactly on topic, but while we're talking about god and emotions and such, i though id put this piece to some use.
why god? why?
so i got to asking myself: why do people have emotions?
then it occured to me that the question contains the answer.
allow me to explain. the universe is big, huge even. incomprehensibly humungous. bigger than the biggest thing you can imagine, multiplied by a billion, after a binge at an all-night breakfast buffet. it is also infinitesimaly tiny. smaller than the little end of nothing-sharpened. the point here is that the cosmos are unimaginable, unfathomable, immeasurable and incalculable. there is what might as well be an infinite amount of variables, in what might as well be an infinite amount of space, spanning what might as well be an infinite amount of time. thats chaos. what Alfred Whitehead calls, "the hurrying of matter, endlessly, pointlessly."
so that brings us to earth (isnt it cute?) . the trend is that the more rational a creature is, the more emotional it is. a paradox? not quite. it is a simple anthropic principle; humans exist, if they are going to survive and multiply then they must think, if they think then they must ask questions. who, what, where, when and sometimes why. in order for the brain to ask the other questions, it must also be able to ask 'why?'. 'why' is the trickster of the bunch, always disingenuous, never satisfied. due to the multifarious nature of the universe, the 'why?' can never be understood; it must be felt. that is the only way a creature, defined by rationality, can make decisions based on factors that it can never understand.
emotions (love/hate/stupidity) provide the bias required to participate in this higgledy-piggledy megacosm. it is difficult, being a human(oid), for me to be objective, however, it seems that humans are the only beings who get hung-up on the 'why?' question. philosophers, theologians, athiests, agnostics and even that guy on the bus, third seat back in the stupid hat, at somepoint wants to know why this or why that. every culture has its supernatural elements, every man is born with the knowledge (or at least the desire for the knowledge) of a higher being. God is irrelevent to the question of emotion, however, i submit to you that the most fundamental and the most accurate expression of God is the: 'why?'
why god? why?
so i got to asking myself: why do people have emotions?
then it occured to me that the question contains the answer.
allow me to explain. the universe is big, huge even. incomprehensibly humungous. bigger than the biggest thing you can imagine, multiplied by a billion, after a binge at an all-night breakfast buffet. it is also infinitesimaly tiny. smaller than the little end of nothing-sharpened. the point here is that the cosmos are unimaginable, unfathomable, immeasurable and incalculable. there is what might as well be an infinite amount of variables, in what might as well be an infinite amount of space, spanning what might as well be an infinite amount of time. thats chaos. what Alfred Whitehead calls, "the hurrying of matter, endlessly, pointlessly."
so that brings us to earth (isnt it cute?) . the trend is that the more rational a creature is, the more emotional it is. a paradox? not quite. it is a simple anthropic principle; humans exist, if they are going to survive and multiply then they must think, if they think then they must ask questions. who, what, where, when and sometimes why. in order for the brain to ask the other questions, it must also be able to ask 'why?'. 'why' is the trickster of the bunch, always disingenuous, never satisfied. due to the multifarious nature of the universe, the 'why?' can never be understood; it must be felt. that is the only way a creature, defined by rationality, can make decisions based on factors that it can never understand.
emotions (love/hate/stupidity) provide the bias required to participate in this higgledy-piggledy megacosm. it is difficult, being a human(oid), for me to be objective, however, it seems that humans are the only beings who get hung-up on the 'why?' question. philosophers, theologians, athiests, agnostics and even that guy on the bus, third seat back in the stupid hat, at somepoint wants to know why this or why that. every culture has its supernatural elements, every man is born with the knowledge (or at least the desire for the knowledge) of a higher being. God is irrelevent to the question of emotion, however, i submit to you that the most fundamental and the most accurate expression of God is the: 'why?'
This post has been edited by xenduck: 29 September 2005 - 01:36 AM
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#615
Posted 29 September 2005 - 11:29 AM
So God is actually a thirst for knowledge and the understanding of the world around us? That's much different than a guy who looks like Jerry Garcia sitting on a cloud and granting wishes to those who suck up to him the most.
And the bottom drops out of that argument if you don't believe that the "why" can't be understood. And until we can properly ask animals as to whether they worry about it, we don't really know what they're thinking. I figure many of them are busy trying to survive and don't really have time to ponder the inner mysteries of the universe... *shrug*
And the bottom drops out of that argument if you don't believe that the "why" can't be understood. And until we can properly ask animals as to whether they worry about it, we don't really know what they're thinking. I figure many of them are busy trying to survive and don't really have time to ponder the inner mysteries of the universe... *shrug*
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