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Posted 23 June 2005 - 10:31 AM

Yoda was told the "secret" (yucks .. it hurts to write about this) of this whole die-then-you-reappear force trick from Qui-Gon .. then he tells it to Obi-Wan just at the end of ROTS..

How in the name does Anakin join them at the end of ROTS... when did he learn how to do this?


It's already bad enought that what was once a mystical way of the Jedi knights is now a "feature" that you can learn / train / write a manual about it. It's like moving your ears... a very dificult to accomplish but rewarding once you get it feature.
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 10:33 AM

It makes little sense. I will come to cover this in Reason #86. wink.gif
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 10:48 AM

Hey, Chefelf .. great take on reasons 21 -30 .. they get better and better as you go on.

Reason 91 seems so far away though crying.gif
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 05:29 PM

DAMN IT LUCAS! When are you going to care about continuity?
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 11:09 PM

qui-gon learned it after he died, why not anakin. if yoda, obi, qui, etc are still 'alive' on the otherside, then they are the ones who taught him. maybe it was natural for him cause he was the chosen one.
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 12:23 AM

i don't mind anikan learning it on his own, out side of the fact that he's a dimwit...

but it was an ability that imagined came to those who died wilingly...
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 12:40 AM

If Qui-Gon took thirteen years to learn the ability, and Obi-Wan and Yoda were trained by Qui-Gon then they knew... Anakin shouldn't have been able to do it.

I always had the idea that Jedi would, upon their death, anchor themselves to a place or person (Obi-Wan to luke, also see the Dark Side Cave) but apparently its this weird ability thing - one that from the way they talk about it in the prequels, Anakin shouldn't have had.
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Mnesymone @ Jun 24 2005, 12:40 AM)
If Qui-Gon took thirteen years to learn the ability, and Obi-Wan and Yoda were trained by Qui-Gon then they knew... Anakin shouldn't have been able to do it.

I always had the idea that Jedi would, upon their death, anchor themselves to a place or person (Obi-Wan to luke, also see the Dark Side Cave) but apparently its this weird ability thing - one that from the way they talk about it in the prequels, Anakin shouldn't have had.



The novelisation actually explains it (since the scenes were cut from the film). It's something about feeling love and compassion while you are dying that gives you the ability to interact with the living even after death.

So Qui Gon does it by accident (note his touching parting encounter with Obi-Wan). He figures out why it happened and tells Yoda, who tells Obi-Wan.

Anakin didn't seem to know about it (he looked awfully confused when Obi-Wan disappeared in ANH). But his touching moment with his son at his death let him into the "Jedi Ghost Club."

Though how this stuff never happened before in the 25,000 years of the Jedi Order (yes, the novel claims the Republic is 1,000 years old, but the Jedi Order is 25,000+ years old) is incredible...

If the Jedi preach no emotional attachments, etc, this might make sense, but you'd think their philosophy would have changed a bit over the years and what about more liberal/progressive/radical Jedi? Surely they're not that perfectly conformist all those millennia? Oh well.
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Posted 24 June 2005 - 03:53 PM

Well, here' the answer that GL will probably tell you:

''Because Anakin was made by the will of the force, when he died he joined the Force once again because he becam one with the force.''

That's total bullshit to me, anyways.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 01:47 AM

i think he's more likley to say:

"what? who do you think you are talking to?!? do you know who i am? i can do anything i goddamn want!!! I can't beleive you're questioning me about this!!! you go to hell, i didn't make these films for you anyway, i made them for my kids, because they understand explosions, and it's important to have people around who understand explosions."
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 02:08 AM

LOL! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 02:34 AM

I hate Lucas stupid compulsion of always trying to explain everything. He always paints himself into a corner doing so. The Qui-Gon reference at the end of RotS is completely inexplicable to anyone who isn't a SW fanboy. Chef has to include this in the Reasons...

Does the novel explain why Anakin is young as a ghost? If he was made a ghost by the touching encounter with his son it is more appropriate that he takes the form of a father figure, rather than a Hayden version. If Anakin became good just before dying the official bullshit explanation of why he is young looking is void.

Luke at the end of RotJ: "Cool, there's Obi-Wan and Yoda, and... and... who the f**k is that guy??!!"

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