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Why Did We Need To Know Vader's Origins? Anybody?

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Posted 22 June 2005 - 03:17 PM

I never wanted the Prequels to be made. Not ever. I didn't find out TPM was coming out until a few months before it did. I wasn't occupied with what had come before; I was perfectly content with the story we got in the OT. If there was anything I fleetingly wondered about, it was how Palpatine came to power, not Vader's origins. They weren't all that important to me. He was a powerful henchman who just happened to be the father of the hero, Luke Skywalker. To me, his story wouldn't have been as interesting as Luke's (and I was right), and the swing from good to evil would be too easy to mess up.

So I don't see the need to know.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 06:21 PM

Yes. Why do we need to know what we already know? We already knew that Anakin was a good guy that was tempted to the dark side by the emperor and he helped to kill the jedi. The prequels were unnesecary.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 06:55 PM

Well, I think if the prequels have shown us anything it is that we were better off not knowing. We were better off left with only our own speculation.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 08:12 PM

The prequels needed to be made to give George something to do... otherwise he would have just sat around an accumulated double chins.
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 11:12 PM

no movies ever HAD to be made. thats kind of a silly question, i mean, someone wanted to make a movie, so they made it. if you dont like it, dont watch it. you'll save money that way.
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 03:26 AM

QUOTE (xenduck @ Jun 23 2005, 09:12 PM)
no movies ever HAD to be made.


The prequels in particular, however, did not need to be made.
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 12:55 PM

Vader's origins should have stayed a mystery. It was much better to make us ponder where he came from. Start him off as a young adult in the Clone Wars. All we should have seen was what Obi Wan told us in ANH. A great pilot and good friend.

As it is we see him as a child, living the easiest life of any slave I've ever seen, with a loving mom and the ability to be the only human (and a kid to boot!) to pilot a pod racer. Sorry, from that I dont see where he got all his anger and hatred from.
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (Michel Orla @ Jun 25 2005, 05:55 PM)
As it is we see him as a child, living the easiest life of any slave I've ever seen, with a loving mom and the ability to be the only human (and a kid to boot!) to pilot a pod racer. Sorry, from that I dont see where he got all his anger and hatred from.


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Posted 26 June 2005 - 02:29 AM

It was a silly move. I agree with what chef said. We're all better off being left in the dark. I would've rather seen a movie along the lines of KOTOR (ie not done by Lucas) or perhaps an episode 7. But the thing is we've been looking at the damn titles Episode IV V VI for so long now that Lucas felt compelled to finish the first three. Or sorry, not finish, start working on and finish.

I don't believe it for one second that he had the idea of Anakin and the twins from the beginning.
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Posted 29 June 2005 - 09:05 PM

Yeah. If he thought all the saga at once, then he would have started on Episode I not on Episode IV.
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Posted 30 June 2005 - 04:25 AM

It seems like they shouldn't have been made because they've turned out so badly.

However, I'm of the belief that the prequels were a good idea in principle. But, much like Anakin Skywalker, they were clumsily conceived.
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Posted 05 July 2005 - 02:44 AM

WalkingCarpet, I know this is completely offf-topic, but I have to ask anyways. What is that on your avatar?
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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:13 AM

Its one of the creatures from the tournament in the Clone Wars cartoon, where we meet Asajj Ventress.

According to the Databank he's "a dim-witted Shikitari insectoid - a rare species of subsentient aliens found on a lush jungle world of the same name in the Unknown Regions.

Shikitari are born in egg clusters suspended in a poisonous protective gel to ward away predators. As they hatch, the developing pupae fuse to one another, growing into a combined single lifeform. Individual Shikitari grow specialized body parts to become eyes, mouths, feelers, and so on. Shikitari pupae grow in a body style that mimics their guardian -- in the case of Shikitari that are raised by humanoids, they adopt that similar morphology."


And do you know what his name is..............Carl!!!

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 03:19 PM

Still Carl is a better name than Elan Sleazebaggano.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE (WalkingCarpet @ Jul 5 2005, 09:13 AM)
Its one of the creatures from the tournament in the Clone Wars cartoon, where we meet Asajj Ventress.

According to the Databank he's "a dim-witted Shikitari insectoid - a rare species of subsentient aliens found on a lush jungle world of the same name in the Unknown Regions.

Shikitari are born in egg clusters suspended in a poisonous protective gel to ward away predators. As they hatch, the developing pupae fuse to one another, growing into a combined single lifeform. Individual Shikitari grow specialized body parts to become eyes, mouths, feelers, and so on. Shikitari pupae grow in a body style that mimics their guardian -- in the case of Shikitari that are raised by humanoids, they adopt that similar morphology."
And do you know what his name is..............Carl!!!

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Carl... now that's just precious. blink.gif
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