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Posted 21 June 2005 - 02:51 PM

Like many of you, I hated seeing Luke and Leia's birth in ROTS because it totally destroyed the "Luke, I am your father" line in TESB. However, it also renders completely stupid Obi-Wan and Yoda's exchange re the Jedi having another hope. Yoda's mysterious "there is another" response to Obi-Wan's assertion that Luke is their only hope just makes the two of them seem like they had been smoking spice.

What I do not understand is why when Bail Organa turns up with Leia back in Alderaan, Palpatine and/or his agents did not do a little more digging around to find out who the real parents of the baby were. I mean, didn't it strike anyone, least of all Palpatine, as just the tiniest bit coincidental that Organa adopted a baby at the exact same time that his close and very pregnant friend Padme copped it? Alongside this, so much effort has gone into making Padme resemble Leia so closely in looks, stature, careers, attitude, bad hairstyles etc., why would Palpatine who up until the OT takes over has been off the smarts scale suddenly overlook the obvious?

Equally, why does a Sith Master who knows that the future is always in motion believe so readily that Padme lost her babies in childbirth? Why, when Palpatine who had put to death all of those with force potential in the former republic because of a future threat to him not extend this policy to places like Tatooine? I know that Tatoinne lies outside of Imperial Law, but if you were a Sith Master and your apprentice had been born in Tatoinne, wouldn't you expand the reaches of The Empire, take the place over and implement the killing of those with force potential? At the very least, with Tatoinne lying outside of Imperial Law, wouldn't you consider this the more likely place where rogue Jedi would go into hiding and so put spies on Tatoinne?

Enough has been said already about how ridiculous it is that Obi-Wan took Luke to Tatoinne, gave him to the Lars for safekeeping but then allowed Luke to keep the Skywalker surname etc thereby making it look like Luke had a target on his back that I am not going to cover old ground. But, in the light of the above, and if Palpatine did or did not have spies on Tatoinne, doesn't it seem even ridiculous that Palpatine and Vader did not know of Luke's existence until at least 20 years after his birth?


Equally, why does a Sith Master who knows that the future is always in motion believe so readily that Padme lost her babies in child birth? Why, when Palpatine who had put to death all of those with force potential in the former republic because of a future threat to him not extend this policy to places like Tatooine? I know that Tatoinne lies outside of Imperial Law, but if you were a Sith Master and your apprentice had been born in Tatoinne, wouldn't you expand the reaches of The Empire, take the place over and implement the killing of those with force potential? At the very least, with Tatoinne lying outside of Imperial Law, wouldn't you consider this the more likely place where rogue Jedi would go into hiding and so put spies on Tatoinne?

Enough has been said already about how ridiculous it is that Obi-Wan took Luke to Tatoinne, gave him to the Lars for safe keeping but then allowed Luke to keep his surname etc thereby making it look like Luke had a target on his back that I am not going to cover old ground. But in the light of the above, doesn't it seem even more ridiculous that Palpatine and Vader did not know of Luke's existence until at least 20 years after his birth?
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 02:55 PM

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[quote=julie123,Jun 21 2005, 07:51 PM]
Like many of you, I hated seeing Luke and Leia's birth in ROTS because it totally destroyed the "Luke, I am your father" line in TESB. However, it also renders completely stupid Obi-Wan and Yoda's exchange re the Jedi having another hope. Yoda's mysterious "there is another" response to Obi-Wan's assertion that Luke is their only hope just makes the two of them seem like they had been smoking spice.

What I do not understand is why when Bail Organa turns up with Leia back in Alderaan, Palpatine and/or his agents did not do a little more digging around to find out who the real parents of the baby were. I mean, didn't it strike anyone, least of all Palpatine, as just the tiniest bit coincidental that Organa adopted a baby at the exact same time that his close and very pregnant friend Padme copped it? Alongside this, so much effort has gone into making Padme resemble Leia so closely in looks, stature, careers, attitude, bad hairstyles etc., why would Palpatine who up until the OT takes over has been off the smarts scale suddenly overlook the obvious?

Equally, why does a Sith Master who knows that the future is always in motion believe so readily that Padme lost her babies in childbirth? Why, when Palpatine who had put to death all of those with force potential in the former republic because of a future threat to him not extend this policy to places like Tatooine? I know that Tatoinne lies outside of Imperial Law, but if you were a Sith Master and your apprentice had been born in Tatoinne, wouldn't you expand the reaches of The Empire, take the place over and implement the killing of those with force potential? At the very least, with Tatoinne lying outside of Imperial Law, wouldn't you consider this the more likely place where rogue Jedi would go into hiding and so put spies on Tatoinne?


Okay it's confirmed my computer is of the darkside. Please consider my post over at this point, because as you will discover, the rest of the post repeats the above. Thanks
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Posted 21 June 2005 - 02:57 PM

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[quote=julie123,Jun 21 2005, 07:51 PM]
Like many of you, I hated seeing Luke and Leia's birth in ROTS because it totally destroyed the "Luke, I am your father" line in TESB. However, it also renders completely stupid Obi-Wan and Yoda's exchange re the Jedi having another hope. Yoda's mysterious "there is another" response to Obi-Wan's assertion that Luke is their only hope just makes the two of them seem like they had been smoking spice.

What I do not understand is why when Bail Organa turns up with Leia back in Alderaan, Palpatine and/or his agents did not do a little more digging around to find out who the real parents of the baby were. I mean, didn't it strike anyone, least of all Palpatine, as just the tiniest bit coincidental that Organa adopted a baby at the exact same time that his close and very pregnant friend Padme copped it? Alongside this, so much effort has gone into making Padme resemble Leia so closely in looks, stature, careers, attitude, bad hairstyles etc., why would Palpatine who up until the OT takes over has been off the smarts scale suddenly overlook the obvious?

Equally, why does a Sith Master who knows that the future is always in motion believe so readily that Padme lost her babies in childbirth? Why, when Palpatine who had put to death all of those with force potential in the former republic because of a future threat to him not extend this policy to places like Tatooine? I know that Tatoinne lies outside of Imperial Law, but if you were a Sith Master and your apprentice had been born in Tatoinne, wouldn't you expand the reaches of The Empire, take the place over and implement the killing of those with force potential? At the very least, with Tatoinne lying outside of Imperial Law, wouldn't you consider this the more likely place where rogue Jedi would go into hiding and so put spies on Tatoinne?

Enough has been said already about how ridiculous it is that Obi-Wan took Luke to Tatoinne, gave him to the Lars for safekeeping but then allowed Luke to keep the Skywalker surname etc thereby making it look like Luke had a target on his back that I am not going to cover old ground. But, in the light of the above, and if Palpatine did or did not have spies on Tatoinne, doesn't it seem even ridiculous that Palpatine and Vader did not know of Luke's existence until at least 20 years after his birth?




This will teach me to preview my points! If you can be bothered my point does acutally end here. Really.
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