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#286 User is offline   Helena Icon

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Posted 28 July 2005 - 06:25 AM

QUOTE (ernesttomlinson @ Jul 28 2005, 10:50 AM)
Melkor, name *one* instance, just one, of a character out of Shakespeare who died of a broken heart.  Juliet, as I remember, knifed herself; Romeo, wimpier than his girlfriend, took poison; Othello used his sword; Lady Macbeth committed suicide after going insane...

Ophelia drowned herself; Cleopatra was bitten by a snake; Portia went mad and 'swallowed fire'... The fact is that young, healthy people simply do not die of 'broken hearts'. They may commit suicide; they may develop illnesses and waste away; they may do something fatally stupid in a moment of madness; in extreme cases they may even have a heart attack. But they do not just go, "Oh, I cannot bear to live any more. Errk!" I can only conclude that Padme had contracted the symptomless but almost instantly fatal disease known as 'Victorian Novel Syndrome'.
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

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Posted 28 July 2005 - 07:58 AM

Good Call Helena. You know something is wrong when a main character dies and all you can do is hope the scene ends, so that the embarrisment may end too.

Broken heart? You know what would be really funny, a flash back scene to all the times Annie and Padme had together. It would consist of 3 scenes running 12 seconds of screen time. "and that time we played in the grass, when you killed all those people, when we fought monsters in an arena, and that time you choked me to near death."
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:29 AM

I like that idea, Jordan. And GOOD CALL, Helena!

If Padme killed herself it would have made a lot more sense (though it would have been out of character). However, in keeping with Jordan's idea:

Padme on the table dying thinks back to young Annie asking her if she was an angel. Then Annie is saying, "Yipee!" Then Annie is staring at Padme and making her uncomfortable. Then he's interrupting her at the meeting with the Queen of Naboo. Then he kisses her and she stops him. And then he falls off that stupid cow creature. And then he tells her, "... and you're starting to sound like a separatist!" Then he chokes her and she dies of a broken heart.

What a sad way for a romance to end. No wonder her heart was broken so badly that she died. Who else has ever had a love that good?
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 11:18 AM

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Who else has ever had a love that good?


If she is lucky, a crack-whore perhaps?
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 12:31 PM

Great new batch. Sorry for not giving my reply earlier, I was kinda preoccupied playing computer games and looking for a job.

The one that surprised me the most was the one about CGI babies. I honestly can't believe or comprehend why they would want to use CGI babies for any reason. You're not alone, Chef, you're not alone!
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 12:39 PM

But the babies aren't CGI... they're real. They're just digitally added to the scene for no apparent reason. Unless, of course, Ewan MacGregor is allergic to babies.

For the most part I think the CGI and special effects in general got a lot better between AOTC and ROTS. The baby scene is not indicative of that, however.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 12:44 PM

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"She has lost the will to live..."
Bail and Obi-Wan get Padme to the medics as soon as they can. The silly-looking medical droid explains that, medically, Padme is in perfect health, yet they are losing her anyway. For good reason, this seems to confuse Bail and Obi-Wan, who are surprised that she's dying. "We can't explain it," the medical droid says. "She has lost the will to live." Ah, great. So the mother of Luke and Leia dies of a broken heart. She has lost the will to live and, by this point in the saga, I have lost the will to care.


A droid cannot give a medical reason for Padme’s malaise, but instead of asking for a second opinion or demanding to speak to the doctor/medic who had diagnosed this medical phenomenon, Obi-Wan without even a whimper, just accepts its diagnosis. The dark side that clouds everything in the new PT now even appears to cloud common sense
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 12:48 PM

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What a sad way for a romance to end.  No wonder her heart was broken so badly that she died.  Who else has ever had a love that good?

I find she reminds me somewhat of Nancy in Oliver Twist - though unlike Nancy, she doesn't have the excuse of being a penniless, uneducated prostitute in a society where women are seen as the property of men. Padme is a beautiful, rich, powerful Senator who was supposedly intelligent enough to govern her planet at the age of 14. To put it bluntly, she should know better.
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Posted 28 July 2005 - 12:50 PM

Exactly. This is the reason standing by Anakin seems completely out of character. I think she's a strong enough woman to not need his bullshit.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (Helena @ Jul 28 2005, 05:48 PM)
I find she reminds me somewhat of Nancy in Oliver Twist - though unlike Nancy, she doesn't have the excuse of being a penniless, uneducated prostitute in a society where women are seen as the property of men. Padme is a beautiful, rich, powerful Senator who was supposedly intelligent enough to govern her planet at the age of 14. To put it bluntly, she should know better.



There are similarities between Nancy and Padme because of the unquestioning love they bear for their respective partners, but that is all. Nancy knew herself, her situation and those around her in a way that Padme never did. Moreover, Nancy was a fighter, she would NEVER have willed herself to die.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 07:29 PM

Reason #61

The Wookie Escape Pod looks more like an Porta-potty than a craft capable of schieving orbit. Why they'd have these things scattered around like that is beyond me. Guess the sh*t hits the fan a lot on their homeworld so they have to escape only to come back. The inside of the pod doesn't look big enough to hold Ypda let alone a Wookie. And if its from Yoda's ship and he planted it there in case things went bad, then he's a douche for being OK with wasting an entire ship and its clone trooper compliment without hesitation.

The Porta-potty design just doesn't work for me and leads to overthinking the unthinkable.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Chefelf @ Jul 28 2005, 12:50 PM)
Exactly.  This is the reason standing by Anakin seems completely out of character.  I think she's a strong enough woman to not need his bullshit.

Your infatuation with Portman has blinded you to the fact that the character was never great, and has been on a downward spiral for three movies.
Granted, her failure to keep her last promise to Anakin did drain the last bit of character out, but there was not whole lot left and never was much.

The true heroine of the story is of course Aunt Beru.

And face it Bonnie Maree Piesse


Makes Portman look like Gargan
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:22 PM

Somewhere in Time. That's the "willing self to death" instance I'd been trying to recall. Reeve lost Seymour forever, but wills self to die and meets her in heaven. I guess....

Even THAT is more stirring than the three-film romance which births the OT.

And in the much maligned titanic film, what's her name found strength enough to carry on and start again after Leo took a dive. Why couldn't Leia's mom? OH. that's right- Losing Annie was such a loss.

And yes, we're not talking Shakespeare here.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:42 PM

Ah yes - the Wookie Escape Pod/ET Impersonator that I thought at first was a tent when I saw it.

What is with PT ships being so small - the Jedi Fighters are smaller than a Smart Fortwo and the wing sections the droids sit in are shallower than the actual droids... blah.

I can understand Ewan not wanting to hold babies - it gives me the wiggins.

And of course - the droid that can somehow spot emotional distress of 'losing the will to live' - despite having only a few hours in which to lose the will to live, in which time she also has to go into labour and give birth to the most massive twins ever... most twins are really small babies - but these fellahs would probably be Heavyweight Champions of the Nursery in the all-baby wrestling comp.
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 10:33 PM

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I think it's mostly that unholy marriage between the Star Wars of my youth and the Star Wars of my late twenties, but hearing James Earl Jones's voice ask questions about Padme makes my ass ache.


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