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#121 User is offline   Dartholomew Icon

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (Madam Corvax @ Jun 13 2005, 01:37 PM)
Gee, LM, I think we've been here before. Of course this is funnyThat's the whole point.

I loved the bit about the chocolate cake and tummy aches, I didn't know what was bothering me about this line before and now I know  biggrin.gif


What is funny is that I was actually eating CHOCOLATE CAKE while I read that and was thinking, I regretted breaking my diet for my secretary's birthday angry.gif
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 05:54 PM

Chef the new 10 are good, but I'm disappointed that among all the talk of the horrible banter between Anakin and Dooku or Obi-Wan and Dooku, you didn't mention Obi-Wan's pronunciation of the word specialty. It's the line, "Chancellor Palpatine, Sith Lords are our specialty." Not a great line to begin with, but McGregor's pronunciation irks me every time I hear it. He says spe-shee-al-i-ty, and it is extremely annoying and takes me right out of the movie.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 05:59 PM

QUOTE (Vwing @ Jun 17 2005, 11:54 PM)
Chef the new 10 are good, but I'm disappointed that among all the talk of the horrible banter between Anakin and Dooku or Obi-Wan and Dooku, you didn't mention Obi-Wan's pronunciation of the word specialty.  It's the line, "Chancellor Palpatine, Sith Lords are our specialty."  Not a great line to begin with, but McGregor's pronunciation irks me every time I hear it.  He says spe-shee-al-i-ty, and it is extremely annoying and takes me right out of the movie.


Just practice for his pronunciation of 'democracy' in the stand-off with anakin on mustafar.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 06:08 PM

A bittersweet ending... the end of an era/saga... the circle is now complete... the end of my childhood... blah blah blah blah.

Let's hear it for the ROTS Review cliches! Ok, sorry guys, had to say it someplace.
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I find it funny how everyone says Jar Jar has no lines in this movie. NOT!

He has ONE LINE. His line is:

"'Scuse me. "

It's that scene where Obi-Wan and Anakin come back from saving the Chancellor and Obi-Wan gives that talk about "meeting his public" (to Anakin). We see some fat alien senator (that blue twi-lek from the other prequels?) bump into him and he says 'scuse me.

This shows the character arc of Representative Binks. Remember how in TPM (13 years ago) he used the Wayne's World aphorism "Exqueeeeeeze me." Our favorite gungan golden boy has grown up. Now he just says 'scuse me. Ahmed Best should be nominated for an Oscar.

Okay, I'm kidding, but there you go. How'se that for a nitpick? Now back to your regularly scheduled thread...
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 06:32 PM

QUOTE (WalkingCarpet @ Jun 17 2005, 05:59 PM)
Just practice for his pronunciation of 'democracy' in the stand-off with anakin on mustafar.


*suddenly the scene changes to black & white*
*For some reason Obi-Wan has gained several pounds, a small Chaplain-esque moustache, and a large derby hat. Likewise Anakin has donned a similar hat and has become much skinnier and his ears have grown in size.*

Oliver Kenobi: Stanley and I will handle this. *primly gets out lightsaber with exaggerated emphasis from a large suitcase, while his companion gets his out of a comically large carpet-bag*

Chancellor Palpatine (suddenly wearing comical fake moustache): (Melodramatically) OOoooo, Get help Sirs! Don't you know he's a Sith Lord!

Oliver Kenobi: Your Excellency... Sith Lords... are our spesh-eal-ity, aren't they Stanley? *realizes that Stanley Skywalker is in the process of trying to sneak away*

Oliver Kenobi *kicks him in the butt*: Would you get back here!

Stanley Skywalker (a little too loudly): Listen I didn't know he was a Sith Lord. You never told me that, maybe this isn't such a good idea *starts to argue* *Dooku looks on, annoyed*

Ollie: Always thinking of yourself. Haven't I done enough for you without you always trying to put the blame on me! Now get over there and attack his left flank. Selfish! *smacks him again* *Stan smacks him back*

Ollie: Don't you hit me! *shoves him towards Dooku* Left flank, *as Stan goes wrong direction* LEFT!

Stan: *does famous crying/whining schtick as he heads into battle* But I didn't want to get into this mess in the first place and why are you always telling me what to do, etc!!!

Dooku: Boys, boys, let's not make a spectacle in front of the Chancellor...
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 06:29 AM

QUOTE (Vwing @ Jun 17 2005, 05:54 PM)
Chef the new 10 are good, but I'm disappointed that among all the talk of the horrible banter between Anakin and Dooku or Obi-Wan and Dooku, you didn't mention Obi-Wan's pronunciation of the word specialty.  It's the line, "Chancellor Palpatine, Sith Lords are our specialty."  Not a great line to begin with, but McGregor's pronunciation irks me every time I hear it.  He says spe-shee-al-i-ty, and it is extremely annoying and takes me right out of the movie.

The word is "speciality" and McGregor pronounces it correctly. Is "specialty" an American word? I've never heard it before. It sounds daft, but I guess that's the same as your complaint.
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 09:23 AM

QUOTE (jxw @ Jun 18 2005, 06:29 AM)
The word is "speciality" and McGregor pronounces it correctly. Is "specialty" an American word? I've never heard it before. It sounds daft, but I guess that's the same as your complaint.

No, the problem isn't that Obi-wan says speciality; it's that he says "defeating Sith Lords is our speciality" or something of that nature. It most certainly is not. Before Phantom Menace, there hadn't been any Sith Lords for a thousand years. And until the end of Revenge of the Sith(including events that take place chronologically later), no Jedi--fighting like a Jedi--had ever defeated a Sith in a lightsaber duel. Even Obi-wan had to freak out to defeat Darth Maul.
I don't think defeating two Sith, defying the Jedi way in the process both times, justifies the statement "defeating Sith Lords is our speciality."
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE (Firewhenready @ Jun 18 2005, 09:23 AM)
No, the problem isn't that Obi-wan says speciality; it's that he says "defeating Sith Lords is our speciality" or something of that nature.  It most certainly is not.  Before Phantom Menace, there hadn't been any Sith Lords for a thousand years.  And until the end of Revenge of the Sith(including events that take place chronologically later), no Jedi--fighting like a Jedi--had ever defeated a Sith in a lightsaber duel.  Even Obi-wan had to freak out to defeat Darth Maul. 
I don't think defeating two Sith, defying the Jedi way in the process both times, justifies the statement "defeating Sith Lords is our speciality."

I don't doubt that it was a typically poor piece of dialogue. It's only one of many and as you say, it's contradicted by the previous two films.

The quibble that was raised was about the pronunciation, not the line itself. It hinges around the fact that Americans do not say "speciality", they say "specialty", as I have discovered today. The poster (Vwing?) was obviously as unaware of this subtelty as I was.
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (Goldberg @ Jun 16 2005, 02:43 PM)
*first time poster*

How General Grevious' "TIME TO ABANDON SHIP! MUAHAHAHA *cough*" and the voice acting for the Nemoidian who says "TWO JEDI HAVE LANDED IN THE MAIN HANGER BAY" made it through youre Reasons To Hate lists is beyond me  blink.gif


Welcome to the site. smile.gif

Yeah, I noticed how stupid that guy sounded but for unknown reasons I didn't choose to ptu it in. I knew there'd be a few I missed but once the list is started it's very difficult to insert new reasons without creating a WHOLE MESS of work for myself later. sad.gif

QUOTE (Vwing @ Jun 17 2005, 05:54 PM)
Chef the new 10 are good, but I'm disappointed that among all the talk of the horrible banter between Anakin and Dooku or Obi-Wan and Dooku, you didn't mention Obi-Wan's pronunciation of the word specialty.  It's the line, "Chancellor Palpatine, Sith Lords are our specialty."  Not a great line to begin with, but McGregor's pronunciation irks me every time I hear it.  He says spe-shee-al-i-ty, and it is extremely annoying and takes me right out of the movie.


Here's the weird thing... Obi-Wan acts COMPLETELY different in this movie. "Sith Lords are our speciality." "Spring the trap!" Big grin. To Grievous... "Hello there!" It's odd. It goes against his character but he seems to be zany throughout the first half of ROTS. I'm really sorry to say this and it may not be a popular view but I kinda liked it. I don't know what it is but I found Obi-Wan to be sorta funny in ROTS even though he was acting completely unlike the Obi-Wan we've seen in Episodes 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6.

And about speciality and specialty. Two different words. One similar meaning. There's the British and American versions of English, a language already confusing enough as it is.

speciality
specialty
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 07:00 PM

When do you think the next reasons will be up?
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 05:58 AM

I liked the EpIII Obi-Wan, less talk of being mindful of one's feelings and more taking the piss out of Artoo and Grievous and just generally being a jolly little Jedi.

Not sure what his two-fingered pointy thing to Grievous's bodyguards was all about though.
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 09:56 AM

Obi-Wan has a British accent, so his pronunciation of 'speciality' is entirely correct. I hate it when movies make British actors use American pronunciation. But how exactly does he pronounce 'democracy'?
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

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Posted 19 June 2005 - 02:49 PM

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When do you think the next reasons will be up?


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Posted 19 June 2005 - 02:50 PM

Chefelf, why do you find ROTS duel exchange stupid, while the one in ANH didn`t have much better dialogue?
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (Lord Melkor @ Jun 19 2005, 12:50 PM)
Chefelf, why do you find ROTS duel exchange stupid, while the one in ANH didn`t have much better dialogue?


The horrible dialogue in ROTS is that much more noticeable thanks to Lucas's glaring narcissism every time anything happens in the movie. I half expect him to stop the movie every few seconds and walk out on screen and say, "Did you see/hear that? Wasn't that COOL/FUNNY?!" There's no flow in the scenes, they get choppy anytime anyone has something to say. Like someone mentioned earlier, it gets to the point of being outright distracting. It was awkward to the point of being embarassing.

The duel dialogue in ANH or any other OT might not have been perfect but at least it didn't make people snicker.
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