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Georgia considers banning 'evolution' Saturday, January 31, 2004

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 08:32 PM

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Georgia considers banning 'evolution'
Saturday, January 31, 2004

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- The state's school superintendent has proposed striking the word evolution from Georgia's science curriculum and replacing it with the phrase "biological changes over time."

The change is included in more than 800 pages of draft revisions to Georgia's curriculum that have been posted by the Department of Education on its Web site. The middle and high school standards are expected to be voted on by the state Board of Education in May, after public feedback.


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Furthermore, the phrase "moronland" will be replaced by "Georgia".
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Posted 30 January 2004 - 08:36 PM

Are they going to change "sex" to "an act initiated to propagate the species".

Much simpler.
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Posted 30 January 2004 - 09:54 PM

They expect public feedback on 800 pages of legal tripe?
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Posted 30 January 2004 - 10:46 PM

The name changing is ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as the idea of evolution its self
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Posted 31 January 2004 - 01:47 AM

Jordon, you are oh so controversial.

I like the word tripe.
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Posted 01 February 2004 - 04:35 AM

Good to see that legal separation of Church and State is working out for you guys.
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Post icon  Posted 03 February 2004 - 07:01 AM

All my apreciations for any teacher who finally understands that their mission is not to teach scientifical facts and thruth, but "what parents want". Maybe they should be called nannies instead of teachers.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:49 PM

Georgia should consider banning pitchforks. You know how much mayhem THOSE cause???!
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 08:11 PM

"okay class, did you know that we biologically changed over time from apes, (even though there are still apes around) and it all started when we started initiating acts to propogate our species."
"teacher, thats tripe."

i said tripe just for you walrus.
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 10:56 PM

Evolution has aquired dogmatic traits of its own.
One of the reasons I left the theory of evolution is due to its patheic nature of condraticting itself. One scientist from berkly put it best. "The more they know about the process, the more evolutionists paint themselves into a corner".

Do the research yourself and you will see that every explanation for evolution has been tossed out the door.

But I'm not sure why the word evolution is a poor one to use. It rolls of the tongue alot eaiser than the "biological changes over time".
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Posted 04 February 2004 - 01:15 AM

Thanks Sinister. That means a lot to me.

And Jordon, yes, it does seem to have a lot of holes. Honestly I think all theories are theories. To take a theory as the truth kind of ignores it's theory-ness.
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Posted 08 February 2004 - 08:04 PM

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And Jordon, yes, it does seem to have a lot of holes. Honestly I think all theories are theories. To take a theory as the truth kind of ignores it's theory-ness.

Yes! When a theory ceases to be a theory it becomes one of two things:

1. A law - if it is proven beyond all doubt.

2. Completely thrown out - if it is proven beyond all doubt that it is not the case.

You cannot completely throw out the option that evolution exists because there is evidence of it all around us in nature. The theory of evolution tends to only be equated with the evolution of man which keeps it traped as a theory because we cannot find the "missing link" between Neanderthal man and modern humans.

The reality isthat there is evidence of evolution in other aspects of nature, both plant and animal.

There is a moth that currently exists ( the name of which escapes me at the moment) but it is a current example of evolution in action. Currently one half of the species exhibits a trait that soes not exist in the other half of the population. This trait relates to a developed survival mechanism to help them from being eaten by bats. It is apparent that some of the moths have developed the ability to "hear" the bats sonar. As such, when they are about to be made a meal of they dive out of the way at the last second. Of course those without this ability get eaten. Soon you will find that all of the moths in this species will exhibit this trait because all the others that don't will get eaten and thus not breed to pass on their deficient defence traits.
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Posted 09 February 2004 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (Supes @ Feb 8 2004, 08:04 PM)
There is a moth that currently exists ( the name of which escapes me at the moment) but it is a current example of evolution in action. Currently one half of the species exhibits a trait that soes not exist in the other half of the population. This trait relates to a developed survival mechanism to help them from being eaten by bats. It is apparent that some of the moths have developed the ability to "hear" the bats sonar. As such, when they are about to be made a meal of they dive out of the way at the last second. Of course those without this ability get eaten. Soon you will find that all of the moths in this species will exhibit this trait because all the others that don't will get eaten and thus not breed to pass on their deficient defence traits.

Most moths have some ability to detect the sonar of bats. Some go even further than that: the Tiger Moth has the ability to flex its chitin, sending off ultrasonic clicking that has the ability to startle and/or confuse the bat. It will do this, again, in response to hearing the sonar. Then there are "whispering bats," whose sonar is at such a low frequency that the moths may not hear it until it is too late. Of course, their range is not so good, so they are not a danger to all moths everywhere.
Some moths have no ability to hear bats, but have the defense of being very large. Many bats are quite small, and will ignore large moths on the grounds that picking them up would make it difficult to remain aloft.

A common misconception about evolution is that it's all about the survival of the fittest, that once a new trait is introduced it must either outcompete the older trait or it will disappear altogether. This is the origin of the common complaint "If man evolved from apes, why are there stil apes?" (To which I say ask that question again in 100 years) Actually, however, the notion of evolution has to do with a species finding a favourable mutation and the mutation thiving, though not necessarily at the cost of the pre-adapted species. Say a fish evolves to survive on land, and later leaves the water altogether. This is not to say that there are no more fish in the sea, any more than to say that if the Inuit people migrated south and are the ancestors of the Incas, then there should be no more Inuit in Alaska. Somtimes an adaptation will outsurvive a previous incarnation of the species, but this would likely only be if the previous incarnation were going to die anyway, like the no-sonar moths might have in your example.
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Posted 09 February 2004 - 03:49 PM

A theory is another way of looking at something. In fact if you add a "y" to an an anagram of "other" you get "theory" tongue.gif
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