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Repeatedly on this forum you read bashers, sad people with nothing better to do than to criticize some movies, writing that the plots of the three prequels are incoherent, that they contradict the original trilogy, and so on. But if you take the prequels seriously and study them carefully you realize this isn't the case.
You have to understand that the prequels are not told from a neutral perspective -they are not Lucas showing us what happened before the OT. Instead, the prequels are supposed to be the propeganda movies put out by the Empire, telling its subjects why the Republic and the Jedi had to go and how the Empire and its key officials came into being.
Viewed that way, the prequels absolutely make sense and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 06:37 AM
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 07:04 AM
Well, at least it's an original excuse for once. 
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?
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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 07:11 AM
Instead, the prequels are supposed to be the propeganda movies put out by the Empire, telling its subjects why the Republic and the Jedi had to go and how the Empire and its key officials came into being.
That's a unique perspective but no argument behind it. Details, puuhhleezze.
That's a unique perspective but no argument behind it. Details, puuhhleezze.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 07:22 AM
I think he might have been joking, njamilla. 
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?
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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 07:40 AM
I think he might have been joking, njamilla.
And I believed the propaganda.
I think I have to leave these boards for a while. A long while!
And I believed the propaganda.
I think I have to leave these boards for a while. A long while!
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 10:05 AM
QUOTE (njamilla @ Jun 5 2005, 07:40 AM)
I think I have to leave these boards for a while. A long while!
Don't say that!!
This is an original explanation but they may want to work on making Palpatine a little less evil in the next batch of propaganda films.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 11:33 AM
QUOTE (Chefelf @ Jun 5 2005, 04:05 PM)
This is an original explanation but they may want to work on making Palpatine a little less evil in the next batch of propaganda films.
Yes, and Anakin a bit less of a whiny bitch. Not to mention improving his pick-up lines a little.
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?
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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 12:30 PM
Propaganda?
That's a very unique defense of the prequels... and I guess it explains why Anakin is such a little bratty lout... they wanted to show how good the Empire is by turning a seemingly hopeless case individual like Anakin into something more productive!
That's a very unique defense of the prequels... and I guess it explains why Anakin is such a little bratty lout... they wanted to show how good the Empire is by turning a seemingly hopeless case individual like Anakin into something more productive!
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 02:25 PM
QUOTE (Casual Fan @ Jun 5 2005, 06:37 AM)
Repeatedly on this forum you read bashers, sad people with nothing better to do than to criticize some movies, writing that the plots of the three prequels are incoherent, that they contradict the original trilogy, and so on. But if you take the prequels seriously and study them carefully you realize this isn't the case.
You have to understand that the prequels are not told from a neutral perspective -they are not Lucas showing us what happened before the OT. Instead, the prequels are supposed to be the propeganda movies put out by the Empire, telling its subjects why the Republic and the Jedi had to go and how the Empire and its key officials came into being.
Viewed that way, the prequels absolutely make sense and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
You have to understand that the prequels are not told from a neutral perspective -they are not Lucas showing us what happened before the OT. Instead, the prequels are supposed to be the propeganda movies put out by the Empire, telling its subjects why the Republic and the Jedi had to go and how the Empire and its key officials came into being.
Viewed that way, the prequels absolutely make sense and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Yeah, right. I can't believe you actually believe this. This is definitely the saddest excuse that I've ever seen.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 03:32 PM
LOL!!
I had at one point I had an interesting idea where Luke is on Coruscant and he finds a Jedi living in the squalid back alleys. He brings this hobo-like character some soup, telling him that he's okay now, that the Empire is defeated etc., and this character tells Luke that he was once a Jedi Knight who had escaped the purge.
Doubtful, Luke asks this character about Obi-Wan and his father, and out of the character's addle-pated, delusional mind he concocts the story which we see now as the Prequels.
I decided to call this character Jee-Orj Lookaas.
I had at one point I had an interesting idea where Luke is on Coruscant and he finds a Jedi living in the squalid back alleys. He brings this hobo-like character some soup, telling him that he's okay now, that the Empire is defeated etc., and this character tells Luke that he was once a Jedi Knight who had escaped the purge.
Doubtful, Luke asks this character about Obi-Wan and his father, and out of the character's addle-pated, delusional mind he concocts the story which we see now as the Prequels.
I decided to call this character Jee-Orj Lookaas.
This post has been edited by CowboyCurtis: 05 June 2005 - 03:35 PM
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Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"
All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"
All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 04:02 PM
QUOTE (floppydisk @ Jun 5 2005, 08:25 PM)
Yeah, right. I can't believe you actually believe this. This is definitely the saddest excuse that I've ever seen.
floppydisk, did you read the rest of this thread?
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?
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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 04:20 PM
Yes, and I think that his explination is completely stupid. It's just another gusher's excuse for liking bad movies. Only thing it's good for is to make jokes about it.
And I think he's serious about it.
And I think he's serious about it.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Casual Fan @ Jun 5 2005, 06:37 AM)
Repeatedly on this forum you read bashers, sad people with nothing better to do than to criticize some movies, writing that the plots of the three prequels are incoherent, that they contradict the original trilogy, and so on. But if you take the prequels seriously and study them carefully you realize this isn't the case.
You have to understand that the prequels are not told from a neutral perspective -they are not Lucas showing us what happened before the OT. Instead, the prequels are supposed to be the propeganda movies put out by the Empire, telling its subjects why the Republic and the Jedi had to go and how the Empire and its key officials came into being.
Viewed that way, the prequels absolutely make sense and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
You have to understand that the prequels are not told from a neutral perspective -they are not Lucas showing us what happened before the OT. Instead, the prequels are supposed to be the propeganda movies put out by the Empire, telling its subjects why the Republic and the Jedi had to go and how the Empire and its key officials came into being.
Viewed that way, the prequels absolutely make sense and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Ah-hah. That explains why none of the good guys in the PT are all that likable. Thanks much! 
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 06:47 PM
Helena - that is the best smiley ever.
Casual Fan - care to back up that propaganda statement about propaganda...
for instance, why would an Imperial propaganda movie include Obi-Wan's impassioned "You were the chosen one!", be told from the perspective of the Jedi, have such clunky foreshadowing and if it was an imperial propaganda movie there is a lot of stuff that only the good guys know - if the Imperial propaganda movie knew that Obi-Wan hagrided Luke to the Lars family, why didn't newborn Vader go and retrieve his son straight off.
I'm amusing that CF was being sarcastic... I hope.
Casual Fan - care to back up that propaganda statement about propaganda...
for instance, why would an Imperial propaganda movie include Obi-Wan's impassioned "You were the chosen one!", be told from the perspective of the Jedi, have such clunky foreshadowing and if it was an imperial propaganda movie there is a lot of stuff that only the good guys know - if the Imperial propaganda movie knew that Obi-Wan hagrided Luke to the Lars family, why didn't newborn Vader go and retrieve his son straight off.
I'm amusing that CF was being sarcastic... I hope.