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#1 User is offline   Jaded Wolf Icon

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 09:34 PM

Even though I have said that George Lucas has every right to produce his stories the way he seems fit, I do admit that there have been times that I thought if I had the chance, what would I do better. So, using my amateur writing skills, here goes...

Episode I: To begin the whole Star Wars saga, I would still have Qui-Gon Ginn and Obi Wan, but both as Jedi Masters assigned to protect Queen Amidala. Darth Maul, the whole Trade Federation would still be in effect. The only difference is that this episode should have introduced the clones in sync with Palpatine's rise to Chancellor. He becomes Chancellor after the former one mysteriously disappears (we would find out by Ep 3 that Palpatine had him murdered). Anakin would be in his teens (like 13 or 14, I can't stand the fact that a 10 year old gained the love of a 19 year olld, *shudders*) who was found by Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan while stranded on Tattooine. However, his piloting skills would not just be based on his podracing skills, but also towards the end when he does not by luck destroy a starship, but actually shows the older pilots his real flying skill. Darth Maul would still kill Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan then kills Darth Maul, and then he takes Anakin as his apprentice. Yoda and Mace Windu tells each other they sense dark times with the clones and an era of unprecedented war throughout the galaxy.

Episode II:The Clone Wars: Flash forward five years later when Anakin is an apprentice under Obi-Wan caught in the middle of the Clone Wars, which erupted two to three years after Ep I. Amidala is the senator of her planet. Pretty much everything that was covered in the Cartoon Network series would be shown in this movie. The way it should have been was the Clone Wars for Ep 2. We would see Anakin being seduced to the Dark Side through his lust for power and fear of death. I would still play with the death of Shmi, but not so wooden as it was in the actual movie. I would definetely show Anakin slicing away on the sand people. I would still introduce Darth Tyrannus (no Dooku) as the leader of the Separatist (Droid) Movement. The movie would end with the introduction of General Grievous and the abduciton of the Chancellor Palpatine.

Episode III: Revenge of the Sith: No changes here. Now we would see what we saw and it should flow more smoothly then what it did, with the exception of Amidala dying at the end. Keep her alive so Leia will have some fond memories. Also, I would let Anakin start calling Obi-wan Ben in reference to how old Kenobi was getting. Sort of a jest between friends. Obi-Wan uses that name at the end as a sort of affectionate towards the times when he and Anakin were friends.


Sound off on it. If I sound stupid let me know. Now I am just having fun with these posts. Long live Star Wars though. I still love it no matter what.
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 09:40 PM

Doesn't sound stupid.
No Jar Jar, right?

How old does Kenobi start in your EP I and what is it called?
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 09:51 PM

Definetely no Jar-Jar. I was hoping he would get killed in Ep 3. At least he didn't rear his ugly head until the funeral with Boss Nash. No title yet though. I don't know. I'll have to think about that one. As far as Obi-wan's age, if you figure he was in his sixties in Ep 4, then he would be in his forties in Ep 3, and Ep 2 for that matter, then I suppose that would place him around 30 to 35 in this Ep 1. A little more older, but at least he would be around the age to start training someone.

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 10:02 PM

Jar-Jar should be analy raped and then his throat should be slit in EP III
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Posted 04 June 2005 - 10:09 PM

Both with a lightsaber.
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 09:09 AM

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I can't stand the fact that a 10 year old gained the love of a 19 year olld, *shudders*


Actually, Amidala was 14 (and so was the actress portraying her).
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 11:05 AM

QUOTE (The Lord of Dorkness @ Jun 5 2005, 07:09 AM)
Actually, Amidala was 14 (and so was the actress portraying her).

I stand corrected, but still *ugh*
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Posted 05 June 2005 - 02:06 PM

Portman was 17 I think when TPM was shot.
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Posted 09 June 2005 - 12:21 PM

Well, according to all my sources, she was 14.

But I could be wrong.
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Posted 09 June 2005 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (The Lord of Dorkness @ Jun 9 2005, 12:21 PM)
Well, according to all my sources, she was 14.

But I could be wrong.



Character Ages Trivia:

No guys, this is how it goes (I'm open to correctly but I'm pretty sure this is correct):

Anakin is 9 and Padme Amidala is 15 in TPM. They're playing characters of their respective ages.

The trick is that movies don't just take one year to make and the actors playing the characters do age. So anyway, that's the age the characters are supposed to be, since the story of the movie is supposed to take place in a timeframe of less than a year (probably in a matter of weeks).

In the behind the scenes for AOTC on the DVD Natalie Portman talks about how her character gets to show a little more skin, now that he's 18 (ie: not jail-bait). So if Natalie is 18 during the making of AOTC, that would mean 3 years ago when TPM came out in 1999 she'd have been 15. Not that actors ages always match up exactly with the characters they are playing, but there you go. Obviously in AOTC she's playing a 25 year old (AOTC is 10 years after TPM) and Anakin would be 19.

However I checked IMDB and just matching up the years (didn't bother to calculate their birthdays and production dates exactly) Portman would have been 18 in 2002, and Hayden Christiansen playing Anakin would have been 20 (iirc). So Christiansen plays a 19 year old, Portman plays a 25 year old, this fits I think.

For the rest of the story:

ROTS takes place 3 years later (not 2 as some of us originally thought) so Anakin is 22 and Padme is 28.

In the classic trilogy Carrie Fisher was 18 playing a 19 year old Princess Leia in Star Wars ("A New Hope"), and Mark Hamil played Luke in his "early 20's and he was 25 (or 26) at the time (Han Solo was in his 30's playing a man in his 20's, slightly older than Luke). However once we get to ROTJ they are canonically (fraternal) twins, so we can assume they were both 19 in ANH, and that sets the limit for ROTS taking place 19 years prior (thus TPM=32 years before, AOTC=22 years before, ROTS=19 years before). Not to ramble on too much more but that's why you now have the age problem for Vader/Anakin, being played unmasked by Sebastian Shaw in ROTJ when that actor was in his 70's but the prequels would make him only 46 years old by this time. Also Obi-Wan would be in his 50's, but he appears to be in his 60's (like Sir Alec Guiness, in ANH).

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Back to the initial post... so you'd just make Anakin and Obi-Wan older, change the titles of the movies to something less pulpy, minimize or remove Jar Jar... introduce the Clone Army in the first episode, and shoe-horn the events of the Clone Wars Cartoon series (2 hours of events) into Episode 2.

So you'd include Durge? The uber powerful Jedi? General Grevious killing Jedi Masters with ease? IG-88 Droids jousting on speeder bikes with Obi-Wan in Clonetrooper armor and other troopers?

Just asking. Some of the stuff about the Clone Wars series I liked and wished they would have been included in the films (proof that lightsabers DO work in water, to dispel that "non-filmed deleted scene" notion from the TPM screenplay/comic, Jedi using body armor in battle) but the rest of the stuff seemed a bit too .... how shall I say "cartoonish" wink.gif

I agree with you that I would have liked to SEE more of the Clone Wars portrayed in the movies, rather than wasting time on the romance and then left Tartakovsky, and the authors of the novels and comics and video games to pickup the slack.

Still, when ROTS came out I got to see the Clone Wars themselves (not just that tease at the end of AOTC) so that pretty much satisfied my curiosity. A few more battle shots in AOTC couldn't have hurt and would only have taked on a couple of minutes to the running time. The Clone Wars if taken literally would force us to assume the Jedi went from weak, to superhero status, then back to weak again, in the space of 3 years. It also has us believe that Grevious started out as a superhero, then turned pathetic, in the same space of time (and don't give me that Mace Windu's half hearted crunching of his chest plates made him that weak... or that Dooku somehow convinced him that the best way to be a great fighter was to tone down his power and act stupid... sides, Grevious's chest plate looks perfectly repaired, despite the coughing and wheezing).
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Posted 20 August 2005 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE (KurganX @ Jun 9 2005, 03:02 PM)
Character Ages Trivia:

It also has us believe that Grevious started out as a superhero, then turned pathetic, in the same space of time (and don't give me that Mace Windu's half hearted crunching of his chest plates made him that weak... or that Dooku somehow convinced him that the best way to be a great fighter was to tone down his power and act stupid... sides, Grevious's chest plate looks perfectly repaired, despite the coughing and wheezing).


Yeah, I admit that Grievous should have been done better in the movies because in the cartoon series, he was one bad mofo. He had speed and lethality, and then in the movie he is all hunched over, slow, and coughing like smoker after too many packs of cigarettes. Still, I definetely liked ROTS.
"And shepherds we shall be for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth unto Thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti!!!"
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