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Posted 01 June 2005 - 06:43 AM

Hey guys I am a long time reader first time poster here. Chefelf your site is excellent and your reasons for hating the prequel movies are proof to any gusher that Epic Duds 1 and 2 are irrefutlably bad movies. I was once a huge Star Wars fan. As a kid there something about the Death Star attack and the Battle of Hoth that captivated me. As I grew older the parts of the OT that bored me as a kid became more interesting then the battles. The parts on Dagobah are incredible, Yoda's explanation of the force impeccable. Of course the coolest thing of all was the Jedi. The OT did a great job making you imagine what the Republic encompassed during the the glory days of the Jedi before the rise of Vader, Sidious and the Empire. Even though many people bash the Expanded Universe I enjoyed the consistencies it maintained in regards to the Force and what it meant to be a Jedi. After watching the Prequel Trilogy I have lost all respect for the Jedi. They lost all their lustre. Let me provide you with some examples.


1. At the end of the Phantom Menace Mace Windu and Yoda discuss the mystery of Obiwans attacker and Qui Cons murderer. The line, "which was killed the master or the apprentice" bothered me. As powerful Jedi, Windu and Yoda should have known better than to think the Sith Master would reveal himself so easily and blatantly by attacking the Jedi on Naboo. Would a Sth Master, yes a master do all the dirty work himself revealing all his plans and putting his life in danger? Of course not he would send his lackey to do it, granted Maul was a powerful lackey at that.
2. Midicholrians....What was Lucas smoking? This garbage could have easily been avoided. I know Lucas was trying to portray Anakin as a powerful Jedi and that was the main purpose of his high midicholrian count but cmon. Qui Con could have just said in Anakins presence, "Ive never sensed such a strong connection to the force in someone, even after being in Master Yoda's presence."
3. Inability of the Jedi to sense danger at convienent moments. This takes the cake. This is most prevelant in Episode 3. I can understand a Sith Lord masking his power in front of the Jedi, yes believe it or not I can cope with that. Perhaps the Jedi having not encountered a Sith Lord in a Milennia, besides Obi Wan (Maul), underestimated the power of the Dark Side. What I can't understand was how the Clones so easily disposed of some of the prominent council Jedi without them sensing the betrayal. Ayala Secura, after years of Jedi training is shot in the back dozens of times before she can react to the treachery. The Jedi on the speeder has two clones reduce speed to her rear and she senses absolutely nothing before being blasted. Plo Koon same deal. Ki Adi Mundi at least died a warriors death, I can respect that. Is it me or did Lucas forget what a Jedi could do? Christ its his story right, he should know that a Jedi can utilize the force to jump extremely high, something Secura could have done to avoid being killed. What about the deaths of Saesee Tin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto. These guys looked badass. They lasted a whole two seconds against Sidious. I don't buy that bullshit that they were stunned because he was a Sithlord. Hello , your a Jedi remember I am sure you can block a lightsaber strike after your enemy performs a triple plancha and then takes 10 seconds to set up for the death blow. All that training, and what do you show for it when the big dance finally comes? You die a pathetic death. Shame on Lucas for wasting an oppurtunity there to make both the Jedi and Sidious look strong. I find it funny that we are introduced to all these character over the span of three movies and the Jedi that dies the most heroically is that padawan (convienently Lucas' son) who kills about 6 or 7 clones before he is mowed down outside the Jedi Temple in Bail Organa's presence.
4. The whole I have the high ground advantage bullshit. Ummmm right an advantage, because Jedi aren't known for jumped extremely high distances. What was really funny about this scene was just seconds before Anakin threw himself at Obi Wans light saber he jumped an incredible distance from a flaming platform onto a conviently placed lava droid. God forbid the chosen one loses in a fair fight. What a load of shit. I would have reworked the entire ending. I would have had Obi Wan kill Anakin after a fercious duel, only for Sidious to revive Anakin from the dead. That would have solidified Sidious as Plagieus' apprentice, and it would have dramatically demonstrated the transition from Anakin to Darth Vader. To fill the viod from Episode 3 to 4 perhaps we could have had Obi Wan sensing the return of Vader from the dead. And instead of that pathetically generic nooooooooooooooo that Vader screams when he discovers Padme's death he should have grabbed Sidious by the throat and elevated him as he did to that rebel in Episode 4. Sidious could have restrained him by telling him that the Jedi had turned Padme against him subsequently leading to her death thus solidifying his position alongisde Sidious.

Anyways I hope I don't get flamed. If you like my opinions please let me know, and if you don't please tell me how you would have done things, Im always open to others opinions and Im sure most of you have a greater creative mind than I possess! Thanks for reading!

This post has been edited by DashRendar: 01 June 2005 - 06:46 AM

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Posted 01 June 2005 - 08:28 AM

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Anyways I hope I don't get flamed. If you like my opinions please let me know, and if you don't please tell me how you would have done things, Im always open to others opinions and Im sure most of you have a greater creative mind than I possess! Thanks for reading!


Oh I seriously doubt you'll get flamed here. Intelligent opinions are always welcome! smile.gif

You definately get an excellent amount of facts right about the Jedi being a bunch of morons who apparently are as easy to kill as flies in a pesticide lab. Lasting only a few seconds in battle against a Sith after a lifetime of training and lots of 'ordinary' battle experiance you'd think they would atleast be able to fight a stih for a while on their onw. Instead, they get cut down in drooves by their enemies.

I really need to see the movie myself before I make more comments, but you definately are confirming that what I suspected about the movie is true!
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