[floppydisk]

Thank you Carlos 9. I will grant you a boon* for your troubles. Tell me, do you mount the heads of your kills in your den in the basement of New York?

*Said boon includes anything that won't get me put in jail and that isn't too hard or involving. So it's basically a favor. Sorry I'm such a lazy ass.

[Giff]

Yoda has always been understood in GL's world to be a mutated human, and is further proven by this lifted research:

"What do you mean he's human?", I hear you cry, "he's short, green and has three digits! And the ears...." All very good arguments. Your average human doesn't look like that. Yoda didn't look like that 80 years ago. He was born Hershel Yodakovich, son of a dentist and homemaker. Early live for Hershel, Hershey to friends, was pretty typical. He had good grades, went to college to become an accountant, met a beautiful woman and got married. Life was fine, if a little dull. Then the sixties hit...

The fact that they are all humans constitutes a race

Jesus Christ... </yourself>

[andy_k_250]

Why is it more 'enlightened' to sacrifice millions upon millions of allies and innocents to Stalin and permit the take over of an undemocratic regime of previously free peoples? Stalin went on to murder millions upon millions of them (them being all the innocents in the eastern bloc nations and the multiple -stan nations). What if Stalin defeated the Fins and took over Sweden as well?
Then again, you are a Swede, when have you stood up for anything besides the senselessness of idling car engines?
I'm not from Spain, that is an error.

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Why are you such a jerk to everyone in every post you make?

[andy_k_250]

I know that you can't help the know-it-all attitiude with being English and all, but you are wrong on so many levels.  Mitichondria are universal in regards to complex cellular life in animals. So what? A dog has mitochondria, just as I do. But we're talking about race in humans here. Now if some humans be it black, asian, white (these are not races but social categories, as there is only one human race) had a pronounced level of a type of mitochondria which let's say allows one to levitate space ships, sway minds, jump multiple stories, discharge lightning from the palms of their hands, they would have enough genetic variation in their mitochondria to be considered a distinct race amongst humans. Now obviously the trait to have a preponderance of such mitochondria is an inherited one (Palpatine to Vader?) Vader to Luke which is a further instance of genetic variation. Somewhere the DNA is giving instructions to build more of these supermitochondria within the cells.

Secondly, what's this 'we' baloney. The post was addressed to someone specific, and not you. I know a nerd such as yourself relishes the role of hero, but go take a seat on the bench until the coach calls you out.

Legionnaire? I see no Legionairre here. My avatar is of the famed prima porta of Octavian Augustus, first emperor of Rome...dumb ass.

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The Jedi are not X-Men.

Even if midichlorians mutate a Jedi/Sith significantly enough to make them a separate and distinct species, that does not make all Jedi one species, it just makes them a variant of their own species, not a new one that includes members of all species from across the universe.

If Yoda mated with Leia, they would not produce offspring - therefore, they are two separate races.

[KurganX]

Just to point out, "humanoid" is defined as:

Having human characteristics or form.

In Sci Fi and scientific speculation about aliens it tends to refer to a creature with two arms, two legs (walking on two legs), one head... ie: roughly human shaped body.

So Yoda with his green skin, pointed ears, and odd number of digits would be humanoid. An amoeba Jedi wouldn't qualify, nor would a sheep Jedi. Most of the aliens we see in Star Wars appear to be humanoid. Banthas and Dewbacks aren't humanoid, but Chewbacca, Ewoks, Admiral Ackbar, etc. are.

The Jedi aren't a "race" they just share common abilities. By that logic all non-Jedi are one race. Two Jedi couldn't necessarily produce fertile offspring together (unless they were both the same species).

It's difficult though because in Sci Fi they tend to use the terms "race" and "species" interchangably. In our world we use "race" to refer to humans with different superficial physical characteristics like skin color and whether we have an fold on our eye lids and facial structures. But all humans are the same species and can easily interbreed. But a human and a chimp could never have fertile offspring together, even though they are both humanoids.

Two human Jedi could have children, the question is if those children would necessarily be force sensitive just because their parents were Jedi (or is this just a special case because Anakin was so powerful). Two Yoda aliens could have children together, etc.

Anyway, according to the EU cloning of Jedi is possible and has been done, and YES this includes force sensitivity. In the AOTC novelisation it's also speculated "what if they used a Jedi as a template instead of Jango Fett" as if it were possible. We know that sometimes at least, Force sensitivity can be passed on from one generation to the next ("the force is strong in my family"). But that can't be the sole factor, otherwise how did the first Jedi come into existence and why are there only 10,000 of them in a galaxy of countless inhabitants?

This post has been edited by KurganX: 06 June 2005 - 04:11 PM

[floppydisk]

Why are you such a jerk to everyone in every post you make?

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Psstt.... he's gone. Killed by Carlos9.

Two Yoda aliens could have children together, etc.

That is possibly the grossest image ever to come into my head. Thanks.

This post has been edited by floppydisk: 06 June 2005 - 08:48 PM

[Despondent]

800 year old children I hope. Those images are worse than Lisa Simpson and Ralph Wiggum having children.

10,000 of them? And the extinguished SITH get REVENGE by having CLONES kill a DOZEN or so Jedi?


I don't presume to know the jedi history outside of the films. Only the version(s) I've seen on the screen.