[civilian_number_two]

Or without boobs. Whatever floats your boat.

It's not a very good question, because the answer any of us gives is just going to be what any of us would do, not what you might do.

Like, me, see, if the opportunity was there, I would score with the Fench ladies, and say to hell with virgin girl, because I think that's doomed anyhow. You might not believe that, however.

[LiocModnar]

But I am still faithful to my girlfriend, I couldn't lie to her.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You've got 3 options. 1) Both of you decide you want an open relationship. 2) Ensure you don't have a reason to lie to her. 3) Lose the girlfriend.

[barend]

after watching so many guys i know cheat on their girlfriends and girls cheat on their boyfriends and those that are always faithfull sit in the corner alone...

i'm inclined to say DO IT!!!

fuck it...

you may as well, she'll forgive you if she finds out.

it's easy to justify aswell... she could have gone out with someone else who wouldn't cheat on her, but let's face it, she's attracted to the kind of person that would...

see... that's how the real world works....

isn't it wonderfull...

[Slade]

Sadly, barend has a point, as does Civ. I tend to trod the personal ethic high ground, though not to the point of irritating self-rigetousness, and my ethics are utilitarian anyhow, and I've never been more than an answer to a homework question with women, so that's easy for me to say, but yeah... do what you want, though I'd reccomend not cheating, and not breaking up with your girlfriend while away too... *shrug*

[Dr Lecter]

Hate to revive a dead topic, but although I don't believe in no sex before marriage, my girlfriend does and I don't know if I can wait that long for her... So... post away

[Otal Nimrodi]

Well, that sucks for you. I guess.

[barend]

Seeing as girls generally ask what guy's do for a living, as practically the first question, i think guy's should ask girls if they beleive in Sex before Marrage...

don't get me wrong, i don't think sex in the centre of a relationship but going shopping together just makes you friends and living together makes you flatmates... sex is more than getting your rocks off (although you can leave it at that on occasions) there's a lot more to it that often gets overlooked but i'm not going into that...

all i'm going to say is that it's lame to wait...

life is short and there's only four things that make life bareable if you have it in abundance...

entertainment (which no one is making a decent atempt of anymore)
sex (which many people go without, while others choose not to)
money (which you have to bloody work for, bt if you have enough you can cover the other two)
love (which is far more rare than most people delude themselves into beleiving)

right now i'm trying to get as much milage out of the first one while i'm between the others...

just remember....

you're going to die!

and that fact will suck less if you don't deny earth's few pleasures while you're still alive!!!

[Slade]

Barend: I'll go into it gladly.

Yeah, it is fun, and an impulse/instinct, but it's a lot more. I think sex can be a very beautiful and romantic way of sharing intimacy between two people, the sexual union representing the emotional togetherness that is constantly shared. I don't think anyone should feel the need to wait for a state sanctioned ritual that puts in writing an agreement that the couple has already made. Not that it's to be taken lightly at all, of course. I find people who fuck randomly and just for the physical gratification rather revolting. If you're in love and comitted, love one another. You don't need a big ceremony and some rings in order to be allowed to express yourselves. Though dinner followed by dessert and coming home to have candles set up is nice...

And for those of you going "Pff, he's just a horny guy and making excuses to cover his sex drive," I'm being earnest.

[WalkingCarpet]

I don't even believe in no sex before work.

I agree with Barend, its a shame to deny yourself one of the natural pleasures of life. But everyone's entitled to their beliefs, yadda yadda additional diplomatic disclaimer. So more power to you, but you are missing out!

[Dr Lecter]

I'm not going out with her anymore so don't worry.

[ion eon]

I think that it is totally up to the person and their particular situation.

[barend]

I'm not going out with her anymore so don't worry.

i'm sorry and relieved to hear that.

[Dr Lecter]

i'm sorry and relieved to hear that.

Indeed me too, on the plus side it means I date other girls, on the negative side, I really liked her.

[barend]

that's what i figured...

[Tpolg]

People like me. I'm quite proud of my virginity.

Of course, it's probably easier to feel that way because I'm female. From what I understand, it seems like males are more ashamed and embarrassed by their virginity.

I can't see sex as being some casual, meaningless thing. That kind of invasion, putting yourself in that position...that's big. Very, very big. That's a special kind of purity and you can never it get back once it’s lost. And I don't plan to allow anyone to do that to me unless I can willingly and confidentially bind myself to that person for life.
...That may have sounded a bit over dramatic there, but...

Just curious, what position were you referring to?