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#61 User is offline   Veer Icon

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Posted 12 June 2005 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Veer @ Jun 12 2005, 01:28 PM)
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This is a cool game. Lets see how many other movies we can come up with...

Any "nooo"s in Indiana Jones?????


To continue, in FOTR when Gandalf falls from the bridge Frodo yells 'NOOOOOOOO!'. Though again no pose.
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Posted 12 June 2005 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (Giff @ Jun 12 2005, 04:14 PM)
It did?....hmmm, the IMDB seems to think otherwise, as seen here.
Storm, honestly, I know you are trying to convince us otherwise....but all of your arguments have major holes in them.

I don't consider participating in 50 no name movies after Star Wars to be an advancement in his acting career.

Major holes in my arguments? Point them out, I would be more than happy to defend them.

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To continue, in FOTR when Gandalf falls from the bridge Frodo yells 'NOOOOOOOO!'. Though again no pose.

I hate that stupid little hobbit. Nothing pleased me more than when Golem bit his finger off. Frodo should have died in the lava along with Golem. That would have been pleasant to see.

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Posted 12 June 2005 - 10:29 PM

QUOTE (Storm @ Jun 12 2005, 03:56 PM)
I don't consider participating in 50 no name movies after Star Wars to be an advancement in his acting career. 


Why not? Just because he hasn't walked the red carpet (to my knowledge) ala Harrison Ford doesn't make him any less of an accomplished actor. Besides a lot of those roles listed are for TV shows not movies, and quite well known TV shows at that.
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Posted 12 June 2005 - 10:37 PM

http://vaderlukeno.ytmnd.com/

Now we can compare Noooo's back to back......Luke's>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vader's.
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Posted 13 June 2005 - 04:40 AM

This Storm guy seems to me to be very smart and cool and all. Keep doing the good work
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Posted 13 June 2005 - 06:46 PM

Ah, Mr McCallum. Would you be as kind as to step outside so we can discuss your involvement with the Prequels?
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Posted 13 June 2005 - 06:58 PM

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (Storm @ Jun 12 2005, 06:56 PM)
I don't consider participating in 50 no name movies after Star Wars to be an advancement in his acting career. 

Major holes in my arguments?  Point them out, I would be more than happy to defend them.


I don't see someone participating in many major pictures making them a GOOd actor...

this argument is lame, as a majority of films seem to be out to sell popcorn...

Leonardo DiCaprio, everyone from dawsons creek, etc...

there are alot of actors out there who quite average, and bad, who are in many successful films and have great careers...
there are a lot of talented actors out there who get next to no work....

there are directors and casting agents, but at the end of the day some coke sniffing executive asshole will step in and say: "I want the wooden piece of crap the girls get wet over" and that pretty much ends ends the popularity/success methode of mesuring acting ability right there...

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Jun 13 2005, 08:49 PM)
there are directors and casting agents, but at the end of the day some coke sniffing executive asshole will step in and say: "I want the wooden piece of crap the girls get wet over" and that pretty much ends ends the popularity/success methode of mesuring acting ability right there...



Amen to that. I'm a filmmaker myself, and it is a never-ending source of grief to me that horrible, plastic actors and actresses are cast in every damn movie nowadays, simply because they're bankable. Art isn't a factor in film anymore. Well, not American film.

But I have noticed that a lot of great actors are drifting back to the theater. I hope Lucas becomes too doddering to realize that before we have "Jedi Rocks: The Rock Opera" and every form of performance art go downhill.

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 07:41 AM

I just had to register to reply to this thread...

Vader's Noooo itself wasn't so horrible, on it's own - movies have been doing that forever - but as others have said - the pose, the lighting, the camera angle, all served to make it extremely melodramatic - you notice the 'device' too much, that's all.

Luke's famous No, while equally cheesy in principle, did not and does not make me giggle much. For me, it has nothing to do with acting or story - it's all in the camera angles, scene framing, and actor pose at the moment of the shot. It was just another bloody nooo scene of many, nothing worse, nothing less. Luke's didn't last quite as long, and it wasn't quite as silly of a voice.

A good example of a ludicrous 'noo' is in the Tombstone movie w/Kurt Russell - a movie that in general I liked very well. When Kurt's brother (or friend, or whoever it was) gets shot, Kurt sits in the mud in the pouring rain and screams "Noooooo!!!" for what feels like forever...he tosses his head back and screams up into the rain while the camera kind of pans up & away from his face from a top view. It was so over the top that for months afterwards a friend and I would turn to each other and scream 'Nooo!' and giggle. And ever since then, every time I see a "noo!" scene Tombstone comes to mind and I crack up. smile.gif

Anyway...to me, Vader's No falls into the Tombstone category - too overdone and shot in such a way as to make it visually riddiculous and therefore I'm laughing AT the movie, not with the movie. Perhaps if Lucas had shot it from a different angle or the lighting had been different, or if I had the sensation that Lucas was actually kind of poking fun instead of being deadly serious, I wouldn't have found it so ludicrously bad...I don't know.

Now a good use of the 'noo' bits, IMO, would be Liam Neeson's many Noo moments in Darkman. Now there's a film that knew how to merge over-the-top with emotional melodrama and turn it into something both a bit sad and hiliarous at the same time. I actually wanted more "noo's' in that movie. lol

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 12:37 PM

I think the problem with Vader's NOOOO!! is that it seems almost like self-parody. Its something you'd expect Homer or Cartman to do, not supposedly one of the most fear inducing villains this side of the Spice Mines.

At least if Vader had then used a force attack on the medi-droids to take out his rage or, as some people had suggested, an attack on the Emperor, it would tie in with his new Dark Lord of the Sith status. As it stands I think even Jar-Jar would have p1ssed himself laughing.
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Posted 16 June 2005 - 02:27 PM

And then there was that Earthquake...
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Posted 16 June 2005 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE (Despondent @ Jun 4 2005, 10:26 AM)
Show of hands, Lucas-lovers. Do you find any of these "Noo" jokes the slightest bit funny?

If you don't answer "yes," you have to do the voice.
Even if some people like the prequels, i doubt anybody anymore likes lucas. Mountain Dew threw some poop at him the other day.
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Posted 16 June 2005 - 08:27 PM

I'll have to catch up. Regardless, a month ago it seemed there were more than plenty.

anyone seen it six times yet?

With a big LOUD (powerful) line like the "No", and with the overwhelming release of emotion,
aren't we due a good strong "vader inhale" prior to the exclamation?

on the dvd. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE (Storm @ Jun 9 2005, 02:48 PM)
The Darth Vader scene where he screams "Nooo!" is a good scene.  It's funny that the nitpickers complain that Lucas has never been in touch with another human being, yet they don't even understand human emotional responses.

The best way I can explain a nitpicker's response to a similar situation is as follows.

*The scene takes place in a hospital late at night.  The Nitpicker was drunk driving with his girlfriend and got into a huge car accident.  Several people were killed, although the Nitpicker barely survived*

DOCTOR: Nitpicker, can you hear me?

NITPICKER: Yes, Doctor.  Where is my girlfriend?  Is she all right?

DOCTOR: I'm afraid that in your refusal to allow a sober person to drive, you got into a huge car accident.  Five people have been killed, including your girlfriend.  Furthermore, you have lost the ability to use both of your arms and legs....

Normal Human Response
NITPICKER(emotions of anger, guilt, and regret building up):Noooooo! 

Nitpicker's Response
NITPICKER(exhibiting no emotions):Drat.  Anyhow, get me another beer.



WTF? You're the one who doesn't understand human responses. Have you ever seen or even heard of anyone getting really pissed off, falling to their knees and shouting at the top of their lungs "NOOOOOO!"
It's not a realistic response. If he were that pissed off, he wouldn't have even been able to form the word; it should've just been an anguished scream. You know, like a real human might do.
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